The apollo, and the 2 chronos models were for interpolation (either for converting to higher (or lower too?) frame rates or slow motion). The Apollo was supposed to be better where the footage has things not moving at the same rate throughout I think and I think it takes into account more frames (so may be slower but it might detect the motion better). I think there was a demo of it on a Topaz page when they were introducing it.
It might be worth preview a clip with all 3 to see which converts it best and then using that.
yes that’s what i’m thinking too. but the picture output from VegasPro is showing the issue. So i’m trying to find where it is (lol), much easier to test than in Topaz but clearly it’s not a topaz / VideoAi related issue
thanks for the suggestion.
it looks like the color is affected simply by converting the video from avi to mp4.
that makes the matter even more complicated for me.
and i have to withdraw my suspicions and doubts about correct operation of Video AI
the problem seems to lie elsewhere
yes, if i have the same issue with Vegaspro19, clearly the issue is not related to Topaz / VideoAi.
i thought that it could be an issue with Color Profile 0-255 / 16-235 , i tried that but it’s not. on vegaspro, it’s not related to MPC-Be, but i don’t know which is doing the import treatment, is it Lav Filters with Vegas ? I’ll Need to install my old Mjpeg dedicated decoder, but really i’m too tired to try all this now (didn’t slept since 24 hours and can’t sleep before 10 hours lol), but at least, you know it’s not a topaz related issue ! so if you can continue to investigate on your side, that would be kind (or hoping someone else here want to help (but outside of the topaz Ai “thing” as it’s not related).
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I already did a test by converting his Mjpeg Avi File to a H264 Mp4 file outside of both software, and proceced the H264 Mp4 file in topaz, and same issue lol. it’s certainly something very stupid lol related to color profil or picture encoding format etc like you said. but my brain has some difficulties to concentrate lol. maybe tomorrow, i’ll try again with some fresh “air” ;).
i just noticed that Vegas Pro is showing the issue in the timeline, in fact… so related on the import, or the way vegaspro display the picture. there is some parameters for the video output, i’ll try that.
yes i can send you the different files i did.
found someone else having the same issue related to mjpeg format, the guys are with the same conclusion as me, fixed the issue by using a third party mjpeg decoder having more color profile options (or not lol) :
Whatever the reason, the smoothest option would be to convert 25p to 50p - or even 75 or 100p. That should produce the best results by far and no dup frames to worry about. I always try to work out what the original frame rate was and to get back to that or some exact multiple of it. Same principle with slomo.
Missing frames (followed by duplicates) in poorly recorded video or frame rate down-conversions with missing frames say 30 to 25 fps are of course a zillion times harder to fix or otherwise deal with.
I also thought that it is necessary to observe the multiplicity of 25/50, 30/60, but I checked it several times and noticed that 60 fps is always smoother. Maybe because my TV is 60 Hz. ?
Я конвертирую музікальніе клипі в 4к120fps. В них много динамичніх сцен. Apollo делает более-менее хорошо. Chronos Fast на движущихся фоновіх структурах делает неприемлемій брак!
I convert music videos to 4k120fps. They have a lot of dynamic scenes. Apollo does more or less well. Chronos Fast on moving background structures makes marriage unacceptable!
That’s certainly possible if you are in the US or somewhere with the same TV standards. It used to be the case that US players and TVs would not play 25/50 fps video natively (money grabbing commercial interests were probably the reason) but from what I’ve read, at least some can do that now - you’d have to check the specs to find out.
Here in Europe, all TVs and players have been able to handle 24/25/29.97/30 fps and their multiples natively for as long as I can remember so I assumed yours would too but it might not; check the specs.
EDIT: An afterthought - if it can’t do 25 fps natively it might do 24 fps, that’s worth checking because the usual thing with that is to slow down 25 fps v ideo to 24, just change the frame rate not the frames. Seems that going from 24 to 25 or 25 to 24 is imperceptible to the human eye unless you play them side by side. Many movies do exactly that.
but clearly it’s not a topaz / VideoAi related issue
