Please stop with the Windows 7 nonsense on multiple threads, it’s cluttering them and is absolutely off-topic.
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Bring the Win7 support back, please!
Vulkan is better than DirectX12 , it can support Win7+ and Linux , and then support Macos by MoltenVK
Vulkan ML(Machine Learning)
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Vulkan can use in machine learning same as DirectX12 , but Vulkan can use on Win7 , Win7 has at least 20% market share , don’t drop Win7 support till the Win7 market share less than Win8.1 , please!
Also, please set the [ Windows SDK Version(Target Platform Version) ] to the value [ 8.1 ] before you build the new version software.
And then , if you can’t make the Vulkan ver. AI Engine in short term, please use the D3D12On7(The Direct3D12 runtime for Windows 7) now.
Nowadays, many people still using Win7 , Win10 is very bloated and RAM usage is too high.
D3D12ON7 sample:
D3D12ON7 Packget (7zip can unzip the nupkg file):
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however, VEAI is OpenGL
No one should be using Windows 7, period.
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No one should be advocating a position that all users should never use any given piece of software or operating system, period.
Your statement is an anti-user statement.
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No, it’s truth. Windows 7 is unsupported and not secure. I will repeat. No one should be using Windows 7. Period.
Computer security software on the market still supports Win7, and Bitdefender discovered most vulnerabilities earlier than Microsoft and pushed virus definition updates earlier. Win7 ESU will not be terminated until 2023. Security is not an excuse for giving up Win7 support.
I know first hand, because I work for multi-billion dollar corporation based in France, who still has thousands of employees on Windows 7, including myself. I still continue to receive security updates from Microsoft on my company issued laptop.
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Another point… currently, VEAI’s installer warns users that they “might have a problem” if they don’t update to Windows 10 2004, which most users don’t get via Windows Update (most are at 1909)… Microsoft has not pushed it yet via Windows Update because of various compatibility issues. So users who update to Win 10 2004 just for VEAI might bomb their systems, and they might not even have needed the 2004 update!
Clearly it would be better to be developing VEAI for systems that didn’t have as narrow OS requirements… why not use Vulkan and have it so that it could even be run on Linux?
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That’s my point, Windows 7 is old. Windows 10 has been released for over 5 years now. Windows 7 was 6 years old when Windows 10 was released. It’s one thing if VEAI incidentally worked on Windows 7 but now you’re asking for under the hood changes to force support for an OS that is a dead end. Just because it can be done, doesn’t mean that it should. I want rapid, stable development, which means leaving other Windows versions behind.
Good software does not depend on a single operating system version to run it.
From the perspective of commercial software, the wishes of the guests are more important than the wishes and time of the developers. Bug10 is updated very frequently. As a result, Bug10 is a constant increase of new bugs and it is not necessarily more stable.
Oh, please. The number of operating systems software runs on does not define “good” software. Placating the whiny requests of a small percentage of end users is not important for commercial software. At least not at this stage of development. And who cares about other buggy software? Bug10 has zero to do with Topaz developers. Finally, I’m willing to bet the number of VEAI paying customers using Windows 7 is insignificant. Maybe Topaz will put up a poll as one person suggested.
Either way, this topic is moot. Here are the system requirements for VEIA: “System Requirements: 1. Need nVidia GPU >4GB VRAM to run fast (CPU can run but quite slow). 2. Cannot handle “interlaced” video directly, footage needs to be to de-interlaced first. 3. Window 10 platform”. This was taken directly from the Topaz Labs website. Deal with it. I’m going to move on to more relevant topics.
Vulkan can use in machine learning same as DirectX12 , but Vulkan can use on Win7 , Win7 has at least 20% market share , don’t drop Win7 support till the Win7 market share less than Win8.1 , please!
Also, please set the [ Windows SDK Version(Target Platform Version) ] to the value [ 8.1 ] before you build the new version software.
And then , if you can’t make the Vulkan ver. AI Engine in short term, please use the D3D12On7(The Direct3D12 runtime for Windows 7) now.
Nowadays, many people still using Win7 , Win10 is very bloated and RAM usage is too high.
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Windows 7 is unsafe to use. Period.
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Yea, the time of Win7 is over.
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Computer security software on the market still supports Win7, and Bitdefender discovered most vulnerabilities earlier than Microsoft and pushed virus definition updates earlier. Win7 ESU will not be terminated until 2023. Security is not an excuse for giving up Win7 support.
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Yeah, actually, it is.
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Windows 7 is unsafe to use. Period.
Unsafe as in someone could get access to monitor what you’re doing, profile your handwriting style, have access to your files, change your settings without your permission, delete some of your apps without your consent, cause your computer to fail to boot or plaster ads in the OS menus? That sounds horrible.
Well then I guess there’s something wrong with my Windows 7 since it reliably continues to work over the last 3 years while the Windows 10 machines have been plagued with inexcusably unprofessional updates from Microsoft that have left them unable to boot, unable to use the keyboard, without sound, replaced my video drivers with generic ones, broken search, no icons on the start menu and unresponsive to touch commands at one point in time or another.
Furthermore, without my digging through all of the privacy settings after each update (when MS reverts my privacy settings to default) I have the equivalent of consenting surveillance on every action I take on my PC.
Then I get to reinstall the apps that Microsoft apparently didn’t approve of me having on my PC that they uninstalled during the update.
But yeah, Windows 7… like I said, my copy must be broken since all of my problems are from Windows 10 due to Microsoft’s incompetence and deliberate hostility to it’s users, so if the problems you’re telling me that I’m supposed to be experiencing from Windows 7 are supposed to be as bad as all of the ones I get from 10 but even worse, I can’t even imagine what it must be like. Come to think of it, all of my friends and family must have broken copies of Windows 7, too.
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Windows 10 works absolutely fine. Windows 7 is not safe to use. End of story and discussion. Have a lovely day.
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