The number of Win7 computers not connected to the Internet far exceeds the number recorded by the statistical website.
Both Win7 and Win10 have the same system kernel architecture, but Win7 saves a lot of resources than Win10, and the amount of available resources is the most important for a multimedia processing software.
Win7 vs all versions of MacOS is an unfair comparison
<17.65% of all desktop users use Mac OS X, of which only 62.15% use macOS 10.15 (that’s 10.97% of the total)>
In fact, Not only Desktop user will use Video Enhance AI, don’t forget Workstation Laptop users and Gaming Laptop users.
By your logic, Windows 2000, XP, Vista and Windows 8 should be supported too because of their kernel. Windows 2000 uses far less resources than Windows 7, so it should have support, right?
Windows 7 is ancient and no company developing new consumer software in 2020 should need to support it. Focusing on just Windows 10 will allow for faster development and better support. Period.
2000 and XP is NT5.x base, Vista/Win7/8/8.1/10 is NT6.x base.
Win7 can install VC2019 runtime and .net 5.0 framework, Win7 is old but it still can use newly framework and runtime.
(Win10 just rename NT6.4 to NT10 before release.)
Please stop with the Windows 7 nonsense on multiple threads, it’s cluttering them and is absolutely off-topic.
Bring the Win7 support back, please!
Vulkan is better than DirectX12 , it can support Win7+ and Linux , and then support Macos by MoltenVK
Vulkan ML(Machine Learning)
Visual Studio Info. from Microsoft:
[ For the Windows target platform, this specifies the version of the Windows SDK that your project requires. When you install a C++ Workload by using the Visual Studio installer, the required parts of the Windows SDK are also installed. If you have other Windows SDK versions on your computer, each version of the SDK tools that you have installed appears in the dropdown.
To target Windows 7 or Windows Vista, use the value 8.1, since Windows SDK 8.1 is backward compatible to those platforms. In addition, you should define the appropriate value for _WIN32_WINNT in targetver.h. For Windows 7, that’s 0x0601. See Modifying WINVER and _WIN32_WINNT. ]
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Say again:
Vulkan can use in machine learning same as DirectX12 , but Vulkan can use on Win7 , Win7 has at least 20% market share , don’t drop Win7 support till the Win7 market share less than Win8.1 , please!
Also, please set the [ Windows SDK Version(Target Platform Version) ] to the value [ 8.1 ] before you build the new version software.
And then , if you can’t make the Vulkan ver. AI Engine in short term, please use the D3D12On7(The Direct3D12 runtime for Windows 7) now.
Nowadays, many people still using Win7 , Win10 is very bloated and RAM usage is too high.
D3D12ON7 sample:
D3D12ON7 Packget (7zip can unzip the nupkg file):
however, VEAI is OpenGL
No one should be using Windows 7, period.
No one should be advocating a position that all users should never use any given piece of software or operating system, period.
Your statement is an anti-user statement.
No, it’s truth. Windows 7 is unsupported and not secure. I will repeat. No one should be using Windows 7. Period.
Computer security software on the market still supports Win7, and Bitdefender discovered most vulnerabilities earlier than Microsoft and pushed virus definition updates earlier. Win7 ESU will not be terminated until 2023. Security is not an excuse for giving up Win7 support.
I know first hand, because I work for multi-billion dollar corporation based in France, who still has thousands of employees on Windows 7, including myself. I still continue to receive security updates from Microsoft on my company issued laptop.
Another point… currently, VEAI’s installer warns users that they “might have a problem” if they don’t update to Windows 10 2004, which most users don’t get via Windows Update (most are at 1909)… Microsoft has not pushed it yet via Windows Update because of various compatibility issues. So users who update to Win 10 2004 just for VEAI might bomb their systems, and they might not even have needed the 2004 update!
Clearly it would be better to be developing VEAI for systems that didn’t have as narrow OS requirements… why not use Vulkan and have it so that it could even be run on Linux?
That’s my point, Windows 7 is old. Windows 10 has been released for over 5 years now. Windows 7 was 6 years old when Windows 10 was released. It’s one thing if VEAI incidentally worked on Windows 7 but now you’re asking for under the hood changes to force support for an OS that is a dead end. Just because it can be done, doesn’t mean that it should. I want rapid, stable development, which means leaving other Windows versions behind.
Good software does not depend on a single operating system version to run it.
From the perspective of commercial software, the wishes of the guests are more important than the wishes and time of the developers. Bug10 is updated very frequently. As a result, Bug10 is a constant increase of new bugs and it is not necessarily more stable.
Oh, please. The number of operating systems software runs on does not define “good” software. Placating the whiny requests of a small percentage of end users is not important for commercial software. At least not at this stage of development. And who cares about other buggy software? Bug10 has zero to do with Topaz developers. Finally, I’m willing to bet the number of VEAI paying customers using Windows 7 is insignificant. Maybe Topaz will put up a poll as one person suggested.
Either way, this topic is moot. Here are the system requirements for VEIA: “System Requirements: 1. Need nVidia GPU >4GB VRAM to run fast (CPU can run but quite slow). 2. Cannot handle “interlaced” video directly, footage needs to be to de-interlaced first. 3. Window 10 platform”. This was taken directly from the Topaz Labs website. Deal with it. I’m going to move on to more relevant topics.
Vulkan can use in machine learning same as DirectX12 , but Vulkan can use on Win7 , Win7 has at least 20% market share , don’t drop Win7 support till the Win7 market share less than Win8.1 , please!
Also, please set the [ Windows SDK Version(Target Platform Version) ] to the value [ 8.1 ] before you build the new version software.
And then , if you can’t make the Vulkan ver. AI Engine in short term, please use the D3D12On7(The Direct3D12 runtime for Windows 7) now.
Nowadays, many people still using Win7 , Win10 is very bloated and RAM usage is too high.
Windows 7 is unsafe to use. Period.
Yea, the time of Win7 is over.
