Topaz Video AI v3.3.1

What Cameron7127 said is not sarcasm (look it up), but expressing his/her disappointment in the performance of the software after spending considerable sums of money. In my case, I choose not to spend my hard earned money on experimental software. I have that wait and see approach and continue to read the forum messages, watching for a shift away software problems to more folks sharing ideas to make their videos look better, without buggy software getting in the way. When I see a majority of people sharing ideas and fewer messages about software problems will be the day I fork over the cash to renew my license.

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i leave this forum during 4 months, and itā€™s still the same comments, and the same things lolā€¦ and thatā€™s since day one, in 2020.
before people were complaining about 2.6.4, when 3.0 was out people were complaining about it was not as good as 2.6.4 lol. yes, the early release of VAi has been a bit chaotic, but today, after one year of update and work, this is very very impressive, and lot of stuff and bugs have been cleared , new options added, new models, etcā€¦

but if you wait about the comments in this forum to upgrade or whatever you want to do, It will never happen, for one single reason : itā€™s a support community forum, notice the word ā€œcommunityā€ !!!

thatā€™s mean that 99% of the messages are about complaining about the software, or issue or performance. on one hand you have people not happy because itā€™s not fast enough for their 4000$ RTX, and then, they improve the software to deal with it, and it lead to people complaining that their computer canā€™t handle the extra power, and bashing the software instead of their hardware. people are and will never happy !

people when they are happy, they are not there, they spend time to use the software ā€¦
rarely they tell they are happy.
itā€™s the same for every software and every support. if you look at the Steinberg forum (private, only way to access it is by ID customer, no Beta, no free inscription) and itā€™s far far worst than here !! and Steinberg is a much bigger company than Topaz !

so if you base yourself on the fact that ā€œiā€™ll update when iā€™ll see joy and beautiful roses in the forumā€, it will just never happen.

what Cameron7127 saidā€¦ is a nonsence comment, like many other tell here since iā€™m on this forum as a witness since 2020. itā€™s always the same. most of the issues you guys complain about i never experienced them, iā€™m very happy with the software actually, and i tell this when i donā€™t have any internet connection since 4 months now (so mainly offline 99.99% of the time) and with a low gear for such a software. but i clearly tell that iā€™m very happy with this software. maybe because iā€™m old enough to have worked in the Video industry 35 years ago, and deal with the gear at this time, lolā€¦ maybe it would help that some people here try the old gears available in the 80ā€™s/90ā€™s.

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I think Cameron7127 said about Mac version. I work on Win11 and for me almost all version are normal, not beta. Yes, from time to time I have some note, but never crash issue. Reading forum I see is a lot of problems on Mac product.

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ā€œā€¦most of the issues you guys complain about i never experienced themā€¦ā€

Well, my point exactly. Apparently, youā€™ll never experience the problems I experienced. It appears were at an impasse. So no sense going over the problems I had with TVAI v3.1.0, since the problems I had back then are still problems for some folks today. In other words, TVAI v3.3.1 is still buggy and very much an experimental piece of software.

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Hereā€™s a link to Apollo vs Chronos vs RIFE. Guess I never posted those before. Not sure how long Iā€™ll leave that link active.
For colorspace, I use the information found in this page.
The important thing to know is that to process in TVAI it has to convert to RGB48le. Then you have to
convert it back to whatever your output is going to need. When I have more time I can make a better write up of how to do it.

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For convert to rgb48 with matrix 709 I know this: ConvertToRGB48(matrix=ā€œrec709ā€). Do you use another command or there is something that I am missing?

The RGB48le Is only valid for Topaz Video Ai or is valid for the old version of Topaz Video Enhance AI 2.3.0?

Well, since this was the first and only post of him he apparently didnā€™t really seek for help / ironing out issues.

And, apart from the fact that this alone renders his complaint moot, generic posts like ā€šI have problemsā€˜ / ā€šthere are bugsā€˜ but without telling what exactly are just senseless.

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Iā€™ve posted many questions, going way back to the original v1 launch looking for solutions to various problems. The problems I had with v3.0.0 still persist to this very day, as posted by many other users. So thereā€™s no sense posting the same ole questions, that other users have already posted. Like I said before, once I see improvement, then Iā€™ll consider renewing my license, but not until then.

Version 3.0.0 was crap, I even said myself it was not even beta ready.
Do not tell me 3.3.1 has not improved 150% since then.
Iā€™m one of the most vocal critics since 2.6.4 but the devs have done great work over the last 18 months.
Iā€™m realistic enough to admit itā€™s not perfect but can use it in workflow combined with Davinci Resolve which I notice you dont want to pay for either.

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Totally agree with this statement ! ok, iā€™m going back to offline mode lol (and i donā€™t complaint about a download manager not there (yet) lol :smiley:

You are correct, I use the free version of Davinci Resolve. Buying the retail version would be overkill for what I do with the software.

Which is a very good thing I put mine into smart priority on my MSI Center then MSI knows I will now Overclock the Nvidea card and add more power to the blower to keep it cold and of course put your bios and the performance in control panel to maximize performance and a pagefile that is set the hard way.

Do not use real time performance but add the Topaz AI to smart priority with MSI it works flawlessly and latesr drivers control centrer.

I still hope that the 4090 can exceed 30fps when processing Artemis, when the 1080P is increased to 4K

That is kind of the point of the forums though, especially the beta. People are supposed to come here to report their issues, and each iteration we can be expected to report the same issues if they are not fixed.

The anger I see here quite often is unwarranted though, and people need to be more objective and polite. The devs are here to listen to issues, figure out what it wrong, and fix the problems they can quickly fix to make the software more usable before they tackle some issues that will take longer time to fix. That is how dev goes, it is how dev always will go. They have posted roadmap to show you what they are working on in what order, and if you see your issue on that roadmap then it is safe to assume you do not need to repost it.

Really, the only things that needs to change here is peopleā€™s attitude and rudeness, which I myself have gotten caught up in before responding to others being so rude, and the basic fundamental understanding of what it means to use a piece of software early, even if you are paying for it.

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Sorry, I donā€™t know about Topaz Video Enhance AI 2.3.0.
Conversion to rgb48 is automatic. Itā€™s after the TVAI filter that you need to convert to rec709.
(I might not be the best person to answer this.)
This is what I have been using:
-sws_flags spline+accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int -vf "colorspace=bt709:iall=bt601-6-525:fast=1" -color_range 1 -colorspace 1 -color_primaries 1 -color_trc 1'
It works great for DVDs. I do have like two Blu-rays that it did not work, but that might be because of some other commands I used that I did not clean up the colorspace commands correctly.
Anyway, I feel like we should continue this on its own topic.

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I cannot speak for others but the last few releases starting around the time the IRIS feature was put in have been very unstable, projects do not complete - AMD drivers are crashing, there are full system failure reboots and it is TOPAZ AI.

I read some blaming these issues on power supplies no offense to anyone but that is absurd. It is not our power supplies that are suddenly failing, and preventing projects from completing, the software has lost stability - at least for me certainly on AMD platform AM4 + AMD 6 series GPU.

Regards.

I donā€™t remember if it was officially announced, but I think v2.x was processed in 8bit RGB and v3.x was processed in 16bit RGB.

There are currently two causes of color alteration in TVAI.

The first is a conversion problem between BT601 and BT709.
TVAI filters are processed internally in RGB, but when converting to YUV, the initial value is BT601 unless explicitly specified in FFMPEG.
For example, when upscaling from SD resolution (BT601) to HD resolution (BT709), colors are altered because they are processed in BT601.
The method to deal with this problem is as described on the ā€œColorspace support in FFmpegā€ page, but another way to deal with this problem is to add "out_color_matrix to the scale filter.

-sws_flags spline+accurate_rnd+full_chroma_int -filter_complex tvai_up=device=0:model=iris-1:scale=4:estimate=30:blend=0.4,scale=w=3120:h=2160:out_color_matrix=bt709

Second, color alteration caused by TVAI filters or models.
FFMPEG has a function to generate a test image, and when output, the color changes can be confirmed.
The color change at the color boundary is considered normal, but the change can also be seen in the center of the color.
This has been reported for some time, but has not yet been addressed.

"C:\Program Files\Topaz Labs LLC\Topaz Video AI BETA\ffmpeg" -f lavfi -i testsrc -vframes 30 -filter_complex scale=w=1280:h=960 color%%03d.png
"C:\Program Files\Topaz Labs LLC\Topaz Video AI BETA\ffmpeg" -f lavfi -i testsrc -vframes 30 -filter_complex tvai_up=device=0:model=iris-1:scale=4 coloriris%%03d.png
"C:\Program Files\Topaz Labs LLC\Topaz Video AI BETA\ffmpeg" -f lavfi -i testsrc -vframes 30 -filter_complex tvai_up=device=0:model=prob-3:scale=4 colorprob3%%03d.png
"C:\Program Files\Topaz Labs LLC\Topaz Video AI BETA\ffmpeg" -f lavfi -i testsrc -vframes 30 -filter_complex tvai_up=device=0:model=prob-2:scale=4 colorprob2%%03d.png
"C:\Program Files\Topaz Labs LLC\Topaz Video AI BETA\ffmpeg" -f lavfi -i testsrc -vframes 30 -filter_complex tvai_up=device=0:model=ghq-5:scale=4 colorghq5%%03d.png
"C:\Program Files\Topaz Labs LLC\Topaz Video AI BETA\ffmpeg" -f lavfi -i testsrc -vframes 30 -filter_complex tvai_up=device=0:model=ahq-12:scale=4 colorahq12%%03d.png

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Hi All,

When running Frame Interpolation using the Apollo model, I am getting the error below. It was working earlier today and now always throwing this error.

Iā€™ve tried redownloading the model and reinstalling the application but not making a difference.

Any ideas on how to fix it? Thanks

2023-06-27 21:24:52 8312  CRITICAL:  ONNX problem: Run: Non-zero status code returned while running DmlFusedNode_0_3 node. Name:'DmlFusedNode_0_3' Status Message: D:\a\_work\1\s\onnxruntime\core\providers\dml\DmlExecutionProvider\src\FusedGraphKernel.cpp(397)\onnxruntime.dll!00007FFCA24892B0: (caller: 00007FFCA2487575) Exception(5) tid(2078) 887A0006 The GPU will not respond to more commands, most likely because of an invalid command passed by the calling application.




2023-06-27 21:24:52 8312  CRITICAL:  Model couldn't be run for outputName ["out"]

2023-06-27 21:24:52 8312  CRITICAL:  Unable to run model with index  0  it had error:  no backend available
2023-06-27 21-24-52.285 Thread: 1236 Info OUT: 2 

2023-06-27 21:24:52 8312  CRITICAL:  Caught exception in tile processing thread and stopped it msg: unable to run model with index 02
2023-06-27 21-25-24.972 Thread: 1236 Info EXITED: 2 -1073740791 1

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But where you use this code? in the command prompt in the tvai exportation code or after tvai in another software?

A question for TheRustyRebel.
Here you told us that you go from 1080p to 4k with Iris (Auto or manual, and how many original detail?), then back to 1080p and another time to 4k with Proteus (auto or manual, prob2 or prob3, how many original detail?)