Then what is the point of the feature request list?
You see this in your crystal ball? Can I borrow it?
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You see this in your crystal ball? Can I borrow it?
yes, i launch it in few seconds be ready to catch it ! itâs fragile ;).
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I bought VEAI in order to improve video quality by AI. There are enough products on the market to manipulate (trim, crop, stabilize, upscale, convert) videos. For my workflow I need professionally trained AI models to clean and modernize old, low resolution videos. I would prefer to use a good TOPAZ VEAI Plugin to an existing video processing product rather than a standalone system under development.
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thatâs what will be available certainly in the future. the choice of ffmpeg has been done because they plan to use Video Ai as a plugin in major video editors. it has been said during the "back to the future 3.0 thread, if i remember.
they are a lot of multiple possibility, unfortunatly, the software must be stable at least and usuable with any major bugs fixed which âforbiddâ the use of the software before further developement.
the resume/processing must work too.
there is no good video software doing acceptable upscallng on the market today except this software.
it will maybe change in the future, but for now, there is none. the only ones available are opensource Ai stuff which are only doing pictures upscalling, and even with that, they are not as good as what offer Topaz with their pictures Ai suite.
the other stuff, trim, crop, etc were requests from people here (including myself). âwe want mouse to crop !!â etc ⊠
itâs hard to know when a company ask to the users what they want in a future software, that they listen them, and after getting messages that âfilling these requests was not that importantâ. itâs not easy.
anyway no matter what people want , the software must work and be stable, unfortunatly there is no other way to do it, except being patient.
if they do an exclusive cli command software, theyâll get a crazy amount of people who will complaint because âi use only your software in standalone, i donât want to mess with premiere or davinci resolve etcâŠâ
If theyâd have stuck initially to developing the core product in version 3 rather than trying to add what many will consider to be unecessary frills (initially), I think theyâd have stood a better chance of being able to release an essentially bug-free version rather then the bug-ridden (albeit mostly useable) one we still have.
Video stabilization and cropping for example, any decent video editor has them now and top end products right down to the level of Vegas Pro can use pro stabilization plugins like Mocha Pro. That kind of thing should have been left out of the initial releases and added in halfway through the first release year, as a free upgrade.
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I totally agree with that !
Itâs interesting but irrelevant for me what people request TOPAZ to do. I appreciate very much what they achieved in photo AI imaging. That was the reason why I spent money for VEAI also.
Might be that my expectations are too ambitious for AI enhancement for video edition, but I see no real progress in those AI models I need for my purposes (Artemis, Proteus).
When I upscale a 90 minutes video downloaded from Mediathek with a traditional video editor (like Magix, or Pinnacle) it takes about 2 hours processing, while VEAI takes 1.5 days, and the output result is different but not remarkable better.
TOPAZ has proven in photo imaging that they are competent in AI. Thatâs what I want to see also in video AI enhancement: ongoing effort to improve video quality by well trained AI models (especially face refinement).
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you are right topaz is not better
You are right about that:
I have purchased all products from Topaz Labs, and for upscaling photos and especially noise reduction at high ISOs in RAWs, I find the software truly outstanding, better certainly than almost all the competition.
On the other hand, on the video upscaling side, I have noticed that there is a lot of potential, but to date the results are not commensurate with the time it takes to encode video: on my 4K OLED TV on which I am using my mini desktop PC, I have installed as a video player the fantastic MPC-HC version 1.9. 23, together with the MadVR video renderer, with internal upscaling set to âNGU Standardâ, the results are incredible, considering then that this process is done in real time, without any encoding (and comparing on the fly the result with the MPC-HC + madVR player of the original SD video, with the upscaled video from TVAI, both full screen in 4K, the final result is not so different, but on one side I have the real time rendering of the player, on the other side I have hours encoding to get a not too much better result).
Letâs say Topaz definitely needs to work on improving upscaling quality and especially encoding speed, which does not take full advantage of the power of modern GPUs!
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Just tried 3.0.1 on my M1 Max Macbook. The performance is still awful. 0.5fps per second for upscaling a 1 min video to HD. Are you really aware of this issue?
I even suggest you should drop M1/M2 Macbook support for now, because the experience is so terrible NOBODY wonât buy a license.
ââŠTopaz definitely needs to work on improving upscaling quality and especially encoding speed,âŠâ
Thatâs exactly why I bought VEAI and what I want TOPAZ to deliver timely. Thatâs what I want to see on top of their Roadmap.
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iâm curious , can you post screenshots comparaison ? (Same Frame MPC/MadVr Vs Veai) ?
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I really invite all of you who think that VEAI is not good and âirevelantâ to read the article written by Joel, heâs really ONE of the guy who know what heâs talking about here.
thereâs a lot of confusion about when AI upscaling is useful, how much improvement can be achieved, and whether paid products like AVCLabs Video Enhancer, DVDFab Video Enhancer AI, or Topaz Video Enhance AI are worth the money.
There are a variety of AI upscaling applications you can download, both paid and free. Out of all of them, there are two clear leaders: Topaz Video Enhance AI and Cupscale. Topaz Video Enhance AI is easily the best paid product you can purchase, but at $200, itâs not cheap. Cupscale is a free alternative worth investigating if you donât have the cash, though there are some tradeoffs
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As soon as I can, I will post the screen or a video with this comparison!
I invite you to read the article above I posted, it answers all the questions you all have about what to expect about Video upscalling and what canât.
Why Is Upscaling Controversial?
Upscaling is not well-loved in certain corners of the video editing community. The reasons vary depending on the individual. Some people dislike Topaz Video Enhance AI specifically, some dislike the entire concept of AI upscaling, and some people are fine with the concept but unhappy with the way current products are marketed and/or what they can achieve.
I read about the real time upscaling abilities of my 48 inch LG C1 OLED TV. Some testers said it is the best upscaling they have seen so far. This is interesting because in my eyes the upscaling by the TV is terrible. âquick and dirtyâ might be a valid description. Using topaz video ai for hours to improve a movie delivers completely different results and they are always worth the time and effort spent on improving the source material. 
My results on a Mac Mini M1 16GB were posted on speed, but one was deleted as a double post and now the other one is buried in this awkward forum.
People talk about different versions of FFMPEG. I am clueless.
But if you look at the chart â use of CPU and GPU are different from version 2.6.4 to 3.0.0.
This was a very controlled experiment. Same everything.
Does anyone have a clue what has happened?
I have AMD Ryzen 5700G, NVidia 3060TI, 32GB RAM. VAI 3.01 keeps eating up all NVidiaâs resources for some reason, after 1 round of exports on 2 instances, I cannot get it to save files using NVidia .265 anymore. Also preview does not work while it is encoding, it is frustrated as you donât know how far the video is going, you can only see a percentage at the bottom. Trimming is worst then before and it is not accurate. Even if I switch back to VEAI 2.64, the encoding will be very slow ( 3 days for 120min) until I reboot. With VEAI 2.64, at least I can continue encoding for many more times before I have to reboot⊠I have switched back to VEAI 2.64 for now, seems like VAI 3.x still have a long way to goâŠ
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Wow, for the first time in many, many years an application brought down my system - hard lock, only physical reset was possible. This happened after a little over an hour of video processing on an 3080 Ti and Windows 11âŠ
Can you tell us what exactly your settings were and be as precise as possible. Also were scaling from say 1080 to 2160. I have a 3060Ti with a 3900x. I also have a rx6600 with a 5700g. You might need to check and make sure the AI Processor has the 3060Ti selected and not the IGPU or the just the processor. I have my IGPU currently disabled in the bios just reduce confusion in different software I use that will default to it even though I have a DGPU(RX6600).
Also the 3060Ti can report 100 percent utilization if you are just using the NVenc encoder of the card but in reality that does not effect the Cuda cores or GPU memory usage. They can still be used with no slowdown.
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