Issue when saving back to Affinity Photo 2

Hi found a glitch between AI v1.5 and Affinity Photo 2.1.1
Opened a raw image in AP and developed with no adjustments
Opened AI from Filters/Plugins (rasterised layer first}
Let AI do its magic saved back to AP
Need to apply a key line around the image
FX/Outline/colour white/inside/ as soon as radius is increased the image goes white.
closed everything down

Opened a raw image in AP and developed with no adjustments
Applied key line ok
Opened AI from Filters/Plugins (rasterised layer first)
Let AI do its magic saved back to AP
The whole image is white

Opened the raw image in AI
Saved as DNG file
Opened the DNG file in AP and developed with no adjustments
Rasterised layer applied key line worked fine
So it seems there is an issue when using AI as plug
Using Mac OS Ventura 13.4.1

Thanks for reaching out. This is odd behavior, the output from the plugin should not be further affected once you add a key line.

Are you applying the key line as a separate layer or on the output layer?

Hi thanks for the reply. My usual workflow is to flatten the image resize for a projected image 1600 x 1200 px then apply the key line to the final layer as last action before exporting as jpeg. I’ve tested this with various images but it’s only after returning from Topaz Ai that it’s a problem.
It’s a bit bizarre I’ve tried close everything down then repeating the process with the same result.
In the tests I did there were no other layers or adjustments applied.
It’s easy to work around once you know its an issue, took me a while to find the problem though. Thought I’d share it.
Hope its not just me!

Hello I’ve had a bit more of a forensic look at this
The issue happens each time.
I have tried other images with the same result
Here is the outcome
I don’t know if this is a Topaz issue or an Affinity one.

Mac OS Ventura 13.4.1
Affinity Photo 2.1.1
Topaz Photo AI v1.5.1
Nikon raw file NEF
Image Dim 6048 x 4024 27.1MB

Workflow 1
Open raw image
Develop - no adjustments
Rasterise layer
Open Topaz AI plugin
Let Topaz autopilot make changes (remove noise)
Save back to AP
Apply key line to image
FX / colour white/ inside/ radius - Screenshot 1
As soon as the radius slider is moved the whole of the image goes white - Screenshot 2
Closed image/don’t save

Workflow 2
Open raw image
Develop - no adjustments
Rasterise layer
Apply key line to image
FX / colour white/ inside/ radius
Key line applied - screen shot 3
Open Topaz AI plugin
Let Topaz autopilot make changes (remove noise)
Save back to AP
When AP reopens image is white - Screenshot 4

If I open the FX control and reduce the radius slider to zero the white fill disappears

Repeated workflow 1 and closed the FX control with the image white Screenshot 5
Used edit tab to step back through the actions
After deleting the plugin action the FX outline worked as expected.
So I increased the canvass size added a white fill layer behind the image
and changed to Outside using a red line - worked ok - Screenshot 6
Changed to Centre** and Inside both changes filled the image - Screenshot 7
Also played around with other FX actions but only Outline seems to be affected





Other Screenshots


Can you try converting the file from a RAW to a TIF before applying the key line?

It looks like doing this to a Raw may be causing some odd behavior.

Hi
As requested opened image in AP2
Developed without any adjustments
Exported as Tiff

Opened Tiff in AP2 opened in TAI plugin
Save back to AP2
Added key line which worked fine
Also works if Key line is added before AI

So it is only happening with a Raw file

Can you try rasterizing the Raw while in Affinity Photo? Here’s their article on this.
https://affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/index.html?page=pages/LayerOperations/rasterizing.html?title=Rasterizing

Hi
I’ve detailed in workflow 1 & 2 above, that after developing the Raw file it is rasterised before any further actions.
This is required in AP2 before it can be opened in Topaz plugin
It seems that in AP2 that after the Develop Persona, the base layer in Photo Persona is still a Raw file.
Just realised that this is because the “Output” in the Develop Persona is set to "Raw Layer (Embedded).
So I tried this again using “Pixel Layer” as the output
There was no need to rasterise this time as the base layer is already a pixel layer. Topaz plugin worked as expected but the key line process still resulted in the white image as seen above.

I would recommend reaching out to Affinity about this. I am not familiar with this application and do not have it installed currently.

To my knowledge Topaz Photo AI does not change the image in a way that would cause this behavior so I’m not clear on the issue.

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