There doesn’t seem to be a Bloom forum here so I will post here. I got another Topaz advertising email today and it shows a before Bloom and after Bloom image. I notice a couple of ugly things about the after Bloom image.
Before:
After:
Note the ugly line/wrinkles on the eyelids. And note the bump added to the bridge of her nose. But the hand is improved a lot.
I tried it in bloom and this was the best I could get at MAX creativity. Nothing like before.
I really wish I could re-install 8.3.3 and use it when I want the weirdness.
It seems to give illustrations a quasi-photographic look. Not what I expected. Thx for posting.
I’m not a fan of Discord or their format/org even though I’ve tried to use it for a few diff servers.
An attempt at a nice picture of a grey heron, which is always at the opposite end of the pond, inaccessible far away (about 300+ meters). It seems to me that the AI has done quite a bit of work here: Gigapixel, crop from a crappy photo, Redefine creative Beta, Creativity medium, Texture 3, 4x magnification of the small crop. I wrote the description of the picture (formerly “prompt”) by hand – it was a big struggle to make the bird covered with feathers and not hair (as it kept appearing in various other Gigapixel models). The result seems too good to me, but of course I have no objections. I don’t even see any artifacts.
But: I’m confused by the label of the result (right picture, and there on the bottom left): Redefine realistic. However, I have Redefine creative Beta in the menu, if my eyes aren’t deceiving me. I guess it’s a mistake in the label and not a confusion in the menu and model entry(?). It would be worth fixing, I suggest.
I think Topaz doesn’t want users to discuss Bloom in this forum, 
or they would’ve created a new section for it. They quietly posted the release in the ‘Other Releases’ section and locked it immediately.
The Bloom model isn’t perfect yet, but it fixes many artifacts seen in the Recover and Redefine models, such as oversharpened subjects, fine hair transforming into wiry strands, white outlines appearing on high-contrast edges, and a scale-like texture on human skin, among other flaws.
Hopefully, Topaz will address these issues in the Gigapixel AI model too, instead of forcing users to rely on the monthly subscription Cloud service.
Just a quick comparison 4x Upscale using the default setting.
Hi ed-7884,
I think you can probably have 2 program versions installed on your PC - it’s a bit fiddly to do !
I have not tried it recently but early last year in Windows 10 PC - I installed new versions of TPAI and GPAI - and kept my old versions by renaming their Program Files folders - ie to “older-Topaz Gigapixel AI”. I can’t now reliably remember what I did with the Program Data folder but whatever it was it worked.
Then I installed the new versions into the standard Windows Program Files folders …
The tip advice I was following (which I can’t instantly find) said to check desktop shortcut icon properties are pointed at the right folders before trying to use either program version.
It worked for me and made it easy to compare version results at that time.
I dropped the double installations after creating a good LrC collection of test images with filename suffix details of model settings etc for comparison with new releases.
Now I just use LrC side-by-side view to compare output from 2 different program releases and in the multi-view-icon you can compare 3 or 4 or 5 or 6 !
If you do a Topaz all topics search using “change program folder name” you will find some relevant posts …
Oh, I think there was a later tip that only one version should be run as Administrator …
There have been a few references to this tip/trick and I’ve not seen anyone say it didn’t work. 
I saw one Topaz reply saying that they didn’t support the idea and that it could cause errors … 
So proceed with CAUTION because I cannot guarantee that the tip still works today… 
Best of luck if you try it… 
This post says in won’t be in these forums …
dakota.wixom
Read more about Bloom here (note the community for Bloom will be in Discord though, not in the forums):
I looked very quickly at “Discord” but could not find anything ???
I am not a fan of Discord as well. 
Maybe we could create a new thread about Topaz Bloom in the General Discussion section of the forum for further discussion. 
Here is the link of the new post.
https://community.topazlabs.com/t/topaz-bloom-creative-upscaling-for-art-and-ai-creations/92364?u=lhkjacky
Training and developing an AI Model is expensive.
I’m curious what the future will show.
I did read that less than 1% of the ChatGPT users are paying users.
Its a different story with Topazlabs since its a very different use case and you cant use it for free.
By the way.
How do you use this images?
In which way?
I A de bloom est inutile photoshop fait très bien le travail donc améliorer les gigapixels pas plus! pourquoi encore s’abonner pour de l’argent?
Me too.
But Discord is not great to work with based on past attempts to use it with different companies’ servers there…
I think Discord is targeted to teens & twenty yr olds based on its format & design style. Probably the same users who, on Reddit, comment that the terrible, amateur, vernacular photography posted there is ‘fantastic’ and, “Hey dude, how did you get that effect??”
Commentaire juste.
That’s a fair question (and I will ask you as well about your bug photos some time, ha!). In response, I just prepared some examples.
Original abstract AI render and Gigapixel Redefine result:
Note the girl at upper left. I cropped her specifically and saved the slightly retouched result as a separate image (reduced here, otherwise these crops are hi-res due to the original 4X and 6X renders):
Depending on your needs, you can use the cropped image somewhere as-is, or you can go further and try some image-to-image work:
I did not take the time right now to do much retouching here, but you can always do that as needed (generative fill, healing brush, etc.):
Another render of the same source image with a different generative model and style:
After getting the modified results, you can either create you own hand-drawn or painted art using these poses as references, or you can apply artsy to them on the computer (I enlarged my result in Gigapixel first before using the art plug-in in Photoshop):
I’ve spent a bunch of time over the last 6+ months creating detailed crops out of my many Redefine renders (about 6600 crops of all shapes and sizes being arranged in different categories; “Fantasy People” is only one group).
More traditionally, I also have crops that can be used as textures or overlays (1571 of them!), shown here reduced:
Lots of nature stuff and scenics as well (abstract and realistic; here are but a few examples out of 2561 crops in this category):
I hope that helps answer your question! Now, tell me about the bugs 
AI hands have come a long way in terms of improving! Wow. Used to be hands (& heads) looked like mutant blobs.
Now, if there could be some variations on the faces that is really needed (vs one Topaz princess & one prince - they look so fairytale-ish to me that royal titles seem appropriate). If you think of the sculptures of the buried Chinese army, the bodies were virtually the same, but each face was produced/carved to have its own personality.
BTW, what do you do with those 1,000’s of fantasy crops. I can imagine uses for the textures (because I’ve tried some you posted to use as overlays) having a harder time with similar yet different context heads.
Thanks, yes, the “heads” require some imagination for practical use! Book illustrations, wall hangings, etc. Once I get the final categories done we’ll see where this goes!
OMG!!! 
That reminds me of the Photoshop Fails online group. Oh geez. So funny.
No, do you create those for yourself or to sell it?
I take the bug photos for my own pleasure, spending time outside in nature and to show them online.
As a photographer I earn my money with portrait and wedding photography.
It reminds me of the good old days with Topaz Girl – she usually had a mysterious surplus of fingers and hands, so maybe your explanation will finally lift the veil of that mystery?
