Education | Photo AI and DeNoise AI ... Photo AI has DeNoise?

I was looking at your bundles and don’t really understand why I would want DeNoise AI if it’s part of Photo AI? What am I missing?

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Photo AI offers the abilities of the three seperate applications Denoise, Gigapixel and Sharpen where the seperate applications still have an advantage in terms of usability and the final result. But the seperate applications are not updated regulary anymore while the main focus relies on Photo AI. I think all applications offer a test period of maybe 30 days so feel free to give it a try befor buy. :slight_smile:

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So to be clear, I can perform the same DeNoise, Gigapixel, and Sharpen with just using Photo AI? The way these are being sold/bundled doesn’t make much sense if Photo AI provides the same features as those separate application, why would I pay $299 for Ultimate when I get the same or better from $249 Dual Bundle (Video AI and Photo AI)?

Unfortunately the Trial/Demo doesn’t export to file … so I did buy DeNoise AI and when I tried to save output from my Sony A7RV RAW, I got a tiny image … didn’t work. Support suggested I convert my RAW to TIFF using Affinity Photo 2 (which means my 120MB RAW becomes a 173MB TIFF uncompressed). I requested a refund and was promptly provided with one (excellent support).

So you seem my concerns/confusion. Is Photo AI going the have the same issues with Sony A7RV RAW? Is the Dual Bundle the best option?

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DeNoise AI, Gigapixel AI, and Sharpen AI haven’t been updated for a long time, so they do not support new camera RAW files. On the other hand, TPAI keeps updating every week, providing better support for new camera RAW files. You can download it and give it a try.

Despite the lack of updates for DeNoise AI, Gigapixel AI, and Sharpen AI, many users still prefer using these separate applications over TPAI. TPAI is convenient if you want to upscale, sharpen, and denoise an image simultaneously.

However, if you only want to denoise an image, Denoise AI is better, in my opinion. This is because TPAI has a built-in feature called “Autopilot” that processes the image every time you open an image. It takes some time, and unfortunately, there’s no way to disable it. The biggest problem with “Autopilot” is its unreliability; it often selects the wrong upscale model or enables denoise/sharpening when it’s not necessary. Consequently, you often need to undo the Autopilot action and manually select everything for the best result.

The second problem with TPAI is that they hide all the adjustment sliders. Every time you want to adjust something, you need to click and expand the section first before you can make the adjustment. This requires extra clicks for every adjustment and multiple clicks for every image, which becomes extremely time-consuming when processing many photos.

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Thanks for your input. Seems very odd that Autopilot can’t be disabled in Photo AI at startup? Are Topaz planning to update Photo AI to address this? Is there a command line option to disable this startup behavior?

How often is Photo AI updated?

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Weekly update

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This only disables Autopilot applying filters (as the description says), but unfortunately not prevents it from running at all.

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Yes still runs through all the processes, takes a long time. Support said it needs to do this on every image.

But you should be able to switch it off.

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It is not the same, I’m getting better results from the stand alone products than PAI, so are some others, lots of recent posts about it.

If Topaz are still selling Sharpen AI etc. why are they not updating them?

I could understand it if they were discontinued and no longer for sale. They say free updates for 1 year but fail to mention that they won’t be updated.

So if I buy a new camera it may not be supported?

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Thanks for all the replies. I’m even more hesitant for purchase. I know the stand alone DeNoise AI Trial version doesn’t work well with my native Sony A7RV RAW and compressed RAW unless I use Affinity Photo 2 to convert them to TIFF and then bring them into DeNoise AI.

Why are separate products DeNoise AI, and Sharpen AI, and Gigapixel AI still being sold when they aren’t being updated?

What exactly are all “the processes” even when the option to not apply filters is set?

Unfortunately the Trial/Demo versions don’t allow me to save output to file so it’s rather pointless to have a Trial/Demo if I can’t review it’s output.

If I remember correctly, the TPAI (trial version) should allow exporting photos without any problems, but it adds a watermark to the image. Did they change that in the new version? :thinking:

It assesses the image and then selects the settings which thinks are the best. Only they are hidden because you have deselected Auto-pilot. But if you select say Sharpen it will be the auto setting, that is my understanding. You can then do each one individually rather than PAI doing it all at once, so it gives a bit more control.

I have not found the auto settings to be very good.

You can buy PAI and use it, if not happy you can get a refund within 30 days of purchase.

Trial version did export but had a watermark over the centre.

I owned Denoise and Sharpen and purchased the Photo Ai and Video Ai bundle primarily for Video, also to have the Gigapixel functionality which I didn’t have. I believed that Photo Ai was a newer program and offered a better solution than Denoise and Sharpen, but to this day I continue to have terrible results with Photo Ai and still use Denoise and Sharpen even though they are not updated. Honestly, I find Photo Ai very disappointing.

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Was thinking of updating, its odd that there is no upgrade pricing but glad to hear this