Colorspace mismatch?

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I have noticed, on several occassions, that there’s a shift in color between the source (Blu-Ray) and what TVAI makes of it. To wit:

And:

The output goes to ProRes 422 HQ.

While the difference is not huge, it’s definitely noticeable.

I think the color conversion error between BT601 and BT709 is recurring.
I made a sample batch file, so if what is 4K_601.mov outputs the same tint, then it is a color conversion error.

BT601BT709Test.ZIP (497 Bytes)

Original(BT709)

TVAI 2x Scale(BT709 → rgb → BT709)

TVAI 2x Scale(BT709 → rgb → BT601) error

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Hey y’all,

These color issues are something our developers are aware of, we’re investigating right now. Thanks for uploading your screenshots!

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@TicoRodriguez & @meimeiriver Can you both share the input and output file with me via DropBox?

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I just checked a recent output .mov file; it’s encoded as BT.709 (as it should be). Far as I see it, nothing TVAI does should ever be converted to BT.601, as that is just for SD material.

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If this is the same bug that was happening before, then the following is happening

TVAI is processed within the rgb48 (R:G:B 16bit) color format.
Since general videos are made in YUV, the processing is YUV(input) → RGB(TVAI) → YUV(output).

YUV(601 or 709…) ->RGB is done properly, but for RGB->YUV, 601 is applied unless you explicitly set it in the options. As the meta tag is 701, the decoding will be wrong.

https://trac.ffmpeg.org/wiki/colorspace

The following is the portion of the sample batch file uploaded last time that relates to the BT709 conversion.

tvai_up=device=-2:model=prob-3:scale=2:compression=0.24:details=0.24:blur=0:noise=0.12:halo=0:preblur=0,scale=w=3840:h=2160:out_color_matrix=bt709

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Another example (from 2010 – The Year We Make Contact)

I dropped a sample of the movie into your dropbox.

What title did you upload the file with?

I already deleted the sample, but the file had ‘2010’ in the name.