What to choose, TVAI or

From so many readed topics at this forum (and not only this) it is still difficult to me to figure out what video enhancer to choose. At the begginning of this year I readed random paper after search for “Best video enhancers”. In the paper there were different frograms and everyone had its description. At the bottom line of the paper there was a conclusion that contained Topaz video as the best of the best. Then I install the free trial version on my laptop and I was really impressed with the results when give to a program videos with poor quality. I tried both live action footage and cartoon. Both were with bad to very bad quality. And in both cases TVAI done the work pretty good! But to be honest. If the quality of source material varies from poor to ultra poor there is not significant improvment in the details. For example in one of the footages there was text (more exactly music sheet) that were totaly unreedable in the original video. In the processed video the music sheet was also unreedable but in a different way. In the original notes in the sheet were recognisable like music notes but pixelated and blurry. In the rendered version the note lines became solid black lines on the paper. Looks exactly like classic 2D cartoon. Well it is good in its own way but if you want realistic looking video then that is not good. This particular video was shoted with old low quality digital camera without proper settings for semi-dark environment. For this video I tried different filters in the progressive section and Artemis gave the best results. Now the second two videos were old TV rips of cartoons. One with bad quality, second one with EXTREMELY BAD quality. Both videos had poor 240p resolution. The second one on top of that had also ton of video noise, blurriness, pixelisation, distortions. For both videos I used triple enhansment: upscale to FULL HD, Dione TV filter and Deblur. On the first poor (but not extremely poor) video the results were magnificient! On the second one for my surprise results also were pretty good but there were places in the footage where the limits of TVAI were noticeable. More specifically there were certain frames that were still a bit blurry especially in the small details. But even that I was impressed! The only problem that I had were the fact that I ran the program on computer with integrated intel graphics and the speed of processing was vvvery slow (0,1 - 0,2 FPS). Now I ordered desctop PC with powerfull GPU but after reading a lot of posts in this forum, especially the comments in the section of updates I started to loss trust in TVAI. There are constant complaints about various bugs, loss of license after update, not improvment of the filters for a long time, bad training and so on. The last time I run Topaz was about two weeks ago but this time on a machine with serious graphic card (Nvidia 4060 Ti). Again I experimented with poor quality live shotted video. I used Proteus filter in the Progressive section and I could say that there is visible improvment in this particular filter compared to it a few months ago. Also the speed of rendering with three on enhancement tools (upscale from 480p to 1080p, filter and deblur) was decent (13 - 14 FPS, more than 100 times compared with intel UHD graphics!). But I also notice some annoying bug. For whatever reason there is uncontrollable zooming of the preview section when I switched between different previews. This is not something that makes the application unusable but will be better without it. At recent time I started again to dig around the web for video enhancers aside from TVAI and I have two conclusions:
First, there is not best video enhancer. Even pro ones have their strenghts and weakness.
Second, in every one program there are functions that I don’t need.
Now, to conclude. I need three genneral functions - upscalling, filtering and increasing FPS. The proper (for me) program should not only contain those functions but also to apply them in the best possible way that is available to this moment. I don’t need too specific instruments like colorising black and white footage, supporting of 360 degree videos, 3D videos, portrait/selfie instruments, sky replacements, advanced face/body corrections, slow motion effects, upscalling to ridiculous high 8K and 16K resolutions (the last one are refferenced to TVAI).
So for me there are three essentials:

  1. Frame interpolation/conversion. I want to convert videos from low 24, 25, 30 FPS to 60 - 120 FPS. I have no need more than 120 FPS (somewhere in this forum I found one complain that TVAI doesn’t support 240 FPS).
  2. Upscalling to FHD, QHD, UHD. The upper limit for me is a bit more than 4K (something like 5K or 6K). I definitely do not need 8K/16K stuff so this advantage of TVAI is not essential.
  3. Filtering, Filtering and Filtering. I will often work with poor quality videos so the program should has very good tools in this regard to tackle different disturbances like noise, blurriness, compressions, linear and non-linear distortions, aliasing, dropouts (common in VHS shoots) and so on.
    So, to conclude. The app that I need should really be capable in adding new information when upscalling and interpolating. Not only duplication of pixels and frames. That is the most important thing because it will be applicable to any source video, especially such with already high quality. The second essential for me is tackling with various disturbances. Here I could make a little compromise (only a little!). In the best case the app should remove any kind of imperfection, including in very poor video, without destruction or artifacts. In the compromise variant the app maybe would be not capable of removing all kind of disturbancies and not be capable of fine tuning every single filter parameter. For example which particular imperfection to be removed, which not, to what degree to be removed certain imperfection and so on. I don’t care of too much manual control, even the opposite. It would be good the program to have some automaticity, but automaticity should be good. In this regard I think that TVAI is enough good. The results with auto parameters I find very pleasant but is good that you have manual control on them. Another thing that make me trust about Topaz is that from everything that I read and watched I ended with the impression that Topaz is very capable of FPS enhancing and that is very important to me together with filtering and resolution enhancing. But I am scared of complaints that many people here have. So what to choose? TVAI or to look other (AVCLabs, HitPaw, Neat Video, PowerDirector…)? Please help me.

If the trial mode gives you the results you want, don’t update. You can feel confident that if you buy it, it will work the exact same as the trial mode but without the watermark.

Fact: Enhancing videos well takes time. A lot of time. TVAI was made to speed up that process with some videos. From the videos you describe, TVAI is not the tool you want, yet. It is almost perfect at HD to FHD upscale enhancement. Currently, any resolution lower, it can do some things, but not like what you sound like you want out of it. For VHS sources, it basically just makes the files larger. They still look about the same—unless you do the face re-creation models. Then they look the same except for the faces. For interpolation, though it’s good, it still feels incorrect if used on a video that’s longer than 7 minutes. That’s my experience with it. In a 40 minute video, there is an instance that feels wrong or jarring or distracting about every 10 minutes. That’s way better than modern TV screens that do that about every 30 seconds, but still not quite what you’re hoping for.

To me it sounds like you want Hybrid and to know what all of the filters can do and when to use them on what sources. So… you’re back to the fact that enhancing videos takes a lot of time.

Thank you for the response and patiency to read my long post! I immediately installed and ran your recomendation but oh my!..I was thinking that Topaz has a ton of controls but that thing is in another dimension! I have zero idea what all those controls are doing. Yes, it is all about precision but this level of precision is questionable, at least in most cases. If you do HI-END stuff like shooting Oppenheimer 2 or Titanic 2, yes. But for casual stuff like fixing old family footage or creating youtube content this is tоo far! I definitely will no use that.

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I tested AVCLabs & HitPaw and personally I was not impressed with the results I got compared to Topaz.
there was just to much picture details loss with those two.
similar results I experienced with both WinXvideoAI & VideoProcConverterAI.
I think Topaz just had a considerable amount of head start time then the others. so they had more R&D & testing time and of course longer production time to learn from and enhance things.

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As far as video AI is concerned, there’s no substitute for TVAI. There are some individual models that are as good as or better than the models in TVAI, but TVAI is the only application where you can get reasonably good results all in one place. A lot of the other algorithms are also really slow and not as optimized as the ones in TVAI. Most of the other paid programs like AVCLabs are just selling open source models anyway. You’re only paying for the GUI.

Topaz Video AI is also very well-integrated with ffmpeg, which is great if you would like to use command line.

Some of the other programs you mentioned like Neat Video aren’t video AI programs. They function differently and are designed to do different things. You can use them alongside TVAI to get better results.

The reason you see so many complaints about bugs in the forums is because Topaz is transparent and tolerant enough to allow that kind of discussion in the first place. It’s actually a whole lot more functional than similar software. And a good portion of the errors people receive are ffmpeg errors and are not related to TVAI itself - it’s just really hard to see this unless you’re using command line.

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@warnery62

This is a critical comparison that a university performed with 30 video AI models, including several of Topaz’ models. The Topaz models performed relatively well; you can see a chart summarizing the results below:

Artemis HQ was considered to be the greatest Topaz model. Personally, I have not come across any video AI models anywhere that have provided me with better results than Iris.

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I am not sure how much we can relay on this when comparing the Topaz Video AI. it seems they were using the older Product of the VEAI v2.x and not the newer versions that includes more sophisticated AIs then the older v2.x. on v2.x there was no Iris, Proteus v4, Reah, etc.

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Hello.

No disrespect but that is just nonsense.

Topaz is not being “transparent & tolerant” (WTH???) because of preferred choice, its
due to just simple WISE BUSINESS ETHICS from history.

Nothing… absolutely nothing… is more damaging for ANY company’s reputation is for that entity to campaign some type of censorship to negative feedback.

Topaz just has been extremely coached (very well) against such practices due to history… again… has proven that those outcomes never end out well.