Video Enhance very slow

I have updated to Win 10 a nd (finally) installed VEAI. The trouble is it is terribly slow. For instance after maybe 15 mins running on a 5 minute fragment of video, it predicted that it was going to take 6 hours to complete.

When I run it I am warned that if I do not have win 10 2004, I may have trouble running the app. But I do know that my machine is old and may well be underpowered to run the app successfully.

I have tried on various clips. The one that I am trying now is a seven second avi

Quite often VEAI just freezes at Initializing AI Engine and that’s that.

I have very limited data allowance and to use up 5.8 GB to upgrade to Win 10 2004would take 10% of my monthly allowance. I was told by M$oft that was the way to go. To completely download the iso file.

So. My specs attached. Am I wasting my time with a 2004 upgrade, because of my specs? Wup! No I suddenly can’t attach files again

OS Name Microsoft Windows 10 Home
Version 10.0.18363 Build 18363
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name NICK-PC
System Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
System Model P55A-UD3R
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU
Processor Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 870 @ 2.93GHz, 2927 Mhz, 4 Core(s), 8 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date Award Software International, Inc. F13, 17/09/2010
SMBIOS Version 2.4
Embedded Controller Version 255.255
BIOS Mode Legacy
BaseBoard Manufacturer Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
BaseBoard Product P55A-UD3R
BaseBoard Version
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State Unsupported
PCR7 Configuration Binding Not Possible
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume3
Locale Australia
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = “10.0.18362.1411”
User Name Nick-PC\Nick
Time Zone W. Australia Standard Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.99 GB
Available Physical Memory 1.55 GB
Total Virtual Memory 15.0 GB
Available Virtual Memory 2.71 GB
Page File Space 6.99 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Reasons for failed automatic device encryption: TPM is not usable, PCR7 binding is not supported, Hardware Security Test Interface failed and device is not Modern Standby, Un-allowed DMA capable bus/device(s) detected, TPM is not usable
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

maybe someone can send you the update via snail mail?

Perhaps, but who do I ask and how long might that take? I do not want to bother with the update by whatever method, if my PC just makes it a waste of time. My experience with Win 10 was messy, as updates usually are IME

Nick

I just started using VEAI myself and I’m finding that it will take a loooong time to upscale clips. I can’t tell what your GPU is, but I have 32GB of RAM. I think while they list 8GB as the minimum, you’re not going to get anywhere with that little memory for video operations.

The software technology is here, but the hardware has yet to catch up. Unless you have a screaming fast high end workstation, you’ll have to endure hours of waiting. If you want to upscale say, old home movies, be prepared to wait days even.

Yes. So it would seem. I am starting to read from guys who have pretty hot gaming gear and they are waiting for days for quite small videos.
I had a pretty unhelpful post from someone who claimed their PC was doing 55 minute vids in 6 hours. I asked for more details and have had no reply…thanks very much.

It seems that the models and the source etc will help, but I do not think they are going to fix what I am experiencing. I cannot possibly justify paying for real top end stuff at several thou a pop, to do what I want, so a refund it is.

Nick

What is your graphic card ?
Video Enhancement + AI are very processing intensive.
If you don’t have a decent GPU, you need a powerful new CPU.

AFAIK, Intel i7 870 is 1st generation i7 from 2009, which doesn’t meet the min. requirement of VEAI.

2021-03-20_064101

Unfortuanately mate, your PC is way too old and doesn’t have enough resources to work on ANYTHING.
I’m sitting here with: Ryzen 5800X and RTX 2080Ti, running 2x 25m videos at the same time for 8 hours with 0.65s/frame.
VEAI focuses more on CPU (for Artemis) and GPU (for Gaia).
You need to build a highend PC, or you should delete VEAI and forget it.

Thanks for the input. Not what I wanted to hear, but what I needed to address.

I don’t think it’s THAT dire. I am running all the still stuff from Topaz, using the GPU and that is easily workably fast. But yeah, for video, I fear the worst.

I was not aware of that about Artemis and Gaia. I guess it’s another free thing to at least try. :frowning:

Other than that I have requested a refund. As I have said there is no way I am forking out for a heap of gear: my work on video is just not worth it. Heh! I bought VEAI for $150 at half price. If I then laid out for the right gear, that would be a drop in the ocean.

BUT…If VEAI still shares between CPU and GPU then I am pretty much screwed.

specs of my graphics card

Name Radeon RX 580 Series
PNP Device ID PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_67DF&SUBSYS_22FC1458&REV_E7\4&932E434&0&0018
Adapter Type AMD Radeon Graphics Processor (0x67DF), Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. compatible
Adapter Description Radeon RX 580 Series
Adapter RAM (1,048,576) bytes
Installed Drivers C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0360470.inf_amd64_35c64671e7fac064\B360357\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0360470.inf_amd64_35c64671e7fac064\B360357\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0360470.inf_amd64_35c64671e7fac064\B360357\aticfx64.dll,C:\WINDOWS\System32\DriverStore\FileRepository\u0360470.inf_amd64_35c64671e7fac064\B360357\amdxc64.dll
Driver Version 27.20.1034.6
INF File oem87.inf (ati2mtag_Polaris10 section)
Color Planes Not Available
Color Table Entries 4294967296
Resolution 1920 x 1080 x 59 hertz
Bits/Pixel 32
Memory Address 0xD0000000-0xEFFFFFFF
Memory Address 0xEFE00000-0xEFFFFFFF
I/O Port 0x0000BE00-0x0000BEFF
Memory Address 0xFB980000-0xFB9BFFFF
IRQ Channel IRQ 4294967292
I/O Port 0x000003B0-0x000003BB
I/O Port 0x000003C0-0x000003DF
Memory Address 0xA0000-0xBFFFF
Driver C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\DRIVERSTORE\FILEREPOSITORY\U0360470.INF_AMD64_35C64671E7FAC064\B360357\AMDKMDAG.SYS (27.20.1034.6, 67.81 MB (71,104,624 bytes), 8/03/2021 13:31 PM)

Clearly your CPU is bottlenecking your GPU pretty much. It means CPU limited your GPU so GPU is weaker and cannot reach its potentials.

Yeah I have seen those requirements, but I was hoping the GPU would carry the ball. I think not.

Does VEAI support Intel Quick Sync for rendering by using the Intel internal graphic card and my Geforce GTX 1660 at same time?

I tried so much in order to reduce the long long rendering times.
As there any way to improve rendering times? I have the feeling, that it doesn’t matter, which graphic units are used…the rendering times are always too long.