FYI there is no Photo AI update planned for tomorrow.
I have been testing the various options, including the new modes. Here are some conclusions:
- For most images to be upscaled Strong is the best option. It has the fewest artifacts and seems to best determine what to sharpen.
2.For most images not needing upscaling, Natural is a great choice, but it should never be used with Upscale. While we are currently forced to upscale last, even the tests with Sharpen after Upscale show the same about this mode.
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Refocus and Lens Blur 2 occasionally work when others donāt quite do it. but in most cases they are not the best choices. Lens Blur 1 is best for most out-of-focus images or those with unintentionally blurred areas due to shallow depth-of-field.
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By default, noise reduction should be first, unless Lighting Adjust is done, in which case it would be better after it. Sharpen should almost always be last on small low-res images, after upscaling. On cleaner, larger images it is probably fine to sharpen before upscale.
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Some basic manual sliders for Light and Color adjustment would be better than the current attempt to automate these. Perhaps Auto could be a preference option ā if OFF, these would start neutral and allow the user to set them.
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Gigapixelās Low-Res 2 is better for some pictures than anything in Photo AI. It would be great to have it here.
Hoping these ideas helpā¦
Sam
Great feedback, thanks Sam!
J have set up my editing route from photoshop to Photo AI for upscale if i need it ,otherwise use sharpen AI old product, which has more control . instead of having too many clicks in PAI with annoying interface.
Where does Face Recovery fit in?
@ dakota.wixom, can you answer this?
Also, see my related post on 2024/07/24:
Does Photo AI do the processing steps in the optimal order (determined by Topaz) or does it do them in the order you use them?
For example, if I select Sharpen, Denoise, Face Recovery, and Upscale in some random order does Photo AI process them in the order I selected or does it know the best and proper order to do the actual processing and do that?
Lightroom Classic processes adjustments in the proper optimal order so it doesnāt matter the order you as a user make adjustments.
Interesting idea!
I see that a Topaz product mgr has read your suggestion.
Iām a āmereā user who beta tests. And who comes from a tech biz (small to Fortune 20) strategic planning, M&A, strategic alliances, tech mktg & CTO background. Not on Topaz staff.
The filter stack is adjustable, with a few exceptions - upscale is a notable case worth mentioning. We generally process the enhancements in the order you specify in the stack. You can drag and re-order them to see how the effects change when stacked. This is a departure from the previous versions of the app which had a pre-determined order.
At the moment, you will need to upscale and export first, then import the upscaled image if you donāt want upscale to be last in stack.
I may not press ālikeā on every suggestion or comment on our forums, but I do promise I read almost every single comment on our release threads - sometimes it just takes a few days to catch up.
A āmereā beta testing user? Youāre quite famous in our Topaz office. Also I think we should order prints of some of our userās photos when we set up our new office, and Iāll be asking you first.
Cheers
Hereās an idea to test itā¦
The restriction on the order of the stack is probably one simple line of code, maybe two or three lines. Make a 3.2.0-based Beta with either this restriction removed, or an exception to allow one or more Sharpen items after Upscale.
Let your beta-testers try it. You will have many comments and examples. Iāve wanted to do the test that a couple other users did recently by running it, exporting, running TPAI again on the export ā but never had time to do all of this. It would need to be tried on multiple images to be of value. If it were as easy as less restrictive order, Iāll try a bunch of them.
Itās such an easy change that if we find it is not useful, or should be limited in some way, it could be left out or modified in future releases.
ā¦Sam
Nice! I do this type of product consulting, propose new features and enhancements in UX, usability and quality. Iād love to collaborate if you know companies that want to make their products even better.
Prints? Nah. New product, new manager, new poster. But a tattoo is forever.
Iāll have to take a look at that in a few days.
But my expectations are not very high.
But the fact that it ignores a sweater in the selection, when generating, is a nice thing.
If the output wasnāt mud, that would be another plus.
After some 3 weeks of vacation and with only my (about 7 year) old Dell Latitude 7480 as my travel companion Iām finally back home and browsing through some of the photos taken during my travelsā¦
This years touristic photo adventure have been a bit different compared to previous years, mainly because I havenāt really let people obstructing my view shooting an interesting monument or landscape bother me - something that isbound to happen just about everywhere most people go. Instead Iāve snapped away thinking āDoesnāt matter - Iāll just remove them in PAI laterā¦ā
So - getting to the removal part I opened up one of my āsubjectsā, started ābrushing awayā and suddenly thought āwhy canāt I just paint the outline of what I want to remove and then use a ābucketā (apologies - I have no idea what that one is called) to fill in the rest? Can it really be that no one have thought about that?ā
So my question would be @dakota.wixom (for example)ā¦
How complicated would it be to add a āfillā tool to the removal process? Am I the only one thinkning that could actually be useful?
Several of us have requested a similar lasso around and auto-fill Remove Tool capability for a while now. The developers have ackād the requests. But no feature yet ā¦
Glad youāre also mentioning it as another vote/reminder! It would help to efficiently use that Remove feature a lot.
On1 are promising something like that for PhotoRaw 2025.