NVIDIA RTX 3090/A6000 vs AMD RX 6900 XT VEAI Benchmark

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Tests had been done with VEAI 2.5.0b1. Latest GPU drivers. No overclocking. TIFF was chosen for stability. Proteus with same settings.

CPU: AMD 5950X
RAM: 64GB 3600Mhz
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2TB

Nvidia RTX A6000 = RTX 3090 vs MSI Gaming Z Trio AMD RX 6900 XT (NVIDIA left, AMD right)

*1080 => 4K with grain
Artemis: 0.31 vs 0.31
Gaia: 0.43 vs 0.4

Chronos v2 (1080p with 23.976 => 60 and no upscaling): 0.33 vs 0.16
Proteus v2: 0.37 vs 0.37

*480 => 4K with grain
Artemis: 0.21 vs 0.22
Gaia: 0.19 vs 0.18

Chronos v2 (480p with 29.97 => 59.94 and no upscaling): 0.04 vs 0.03
Proteus v2: 0.25 vs 0.24

As you can see, the significantly fast processing speed from AMD completely dominates NVIDIA in Chronos and almost 10% in Gaia. I didnā€™t expect this from DirectML which favors AMD than NVIDIA.

+100% performance for Chronus model and +10% in Gaia models is what you get from AMD RX 6900 XT.

Artemis/Dione models seem to perform very identically. And I think you made your mind now right? Stability? Time will tell, and I will update this topic once I have something to share.

LONG LIVE AMD :crown:

ā€¦for now.

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Thank you for testing & sharing. :grinning: :+1:
It is very useful for all of us who want to purchase a new GPU.

If AMD RX6900XT >= Nvidia RTX3090,
I think we can assume similar result between, :thinking:
RX6800XT vs RTX3080,
RX6800 vs RTX3070,
RX6700XT vs RTX3060TI,
RX6600XT vs RTX3060,

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Might be, but DirectML favors AMD than Nvidia I guess.

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Soā€¦ could we assume from this that 2x 6900XT would --destroy-- a single 3090? Because I have a 3090 that Iā€™m using mostly for Da Vinci Resolve at present but at the price these are currently going for I could buy 2x 6900XTā€¦ and that would certainly make me a happy VEAIerā€¦ :smiley:

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If you use Gaia Proteus Chronus => then yes
If Artemis, Dione or other models => then no
multiGPU does not scale properly with those Artemis, Dione related models.

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I should post a new topic I guess for this question, but Iā€™ve yet to figure out my ideal methodsā€¦

I am wanting to upscale 5.7K from consumer 360 cameras to 8 & 12K. And encoding introduces a lot of mush because even 12K @360 is only ~1440p (guessing) on a 16:9 segment.
Plus Iā€™m not sure VEAI understands 360 very wellā€¦ the centre is fine yes but unless it fully comprehends why the top & bottom are distorted in the source itā€™s not going to process them correctly. Havenā€™t seen any -obvious- negative results yet, but it just seemsā€¦ risky. Heh

Anyway I have a spare R9 3900x sitting around, while my Resolve PC has the 3090 and a 5950x. Also have a couple of 3080s but am now thinking maybe swapping them for 6900XTs is a better bet, if theyā€™re a match for the model I need. But I donā€™t have a spare AM4 motherboard so that leaves me with a few conundrums:

  • how much does CPU matter? mid-range AlderLake (evtl) vs 3900x? I see you mentioned 5% uptick going from 5800x to 5950xā€¦ that doesnā€™t seem worth it to me :smiley:
  • how much does PCIe matter? 3.0 vs 4.0?
  • and what is the right model for my upscale, do you think? I am thinking I probably need to do several passes to flash out good detail in e.g. trees which always look horrrrible in any video I render. Can check out ā€˜nowandrewā€™ on youtube to see what Iā€™ve done so far. ID0032SR in 8k is the VEAI result.
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Higher CPU clock speed = better performance. Single core clock speed also matters.
PCIE 3.0 or 4.0 is just the same for now. No performance impact.
I use Artemis all the time, and I think Artemis models are the best. If you need customization, then Proteus is a better option. Just better, not better than Artemis yet.

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And RTX 3xxx are getting full Tensor performance yet? Or update hasnā€™t yet happened?

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Tensor cores have very small boost or donā€™t have any boost at all to impact VEAI performance.

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But Tensorflow in DirectML is whatā€™s given the RX6xxxx the edge on RTX yes?
And thatā€™s still to be enabled for RTX? Or did I read that wrong?

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Tensor cores just support AI, not a requirement to run AI. Itā€™s hard to know what is needed the most, but based on my tests, AMD performs much better than Nvidia in many way. Maybe AMD GPUs are optimized for DirectML.

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May be because AMD GPU have better FP16 (half) performance than Nvidia GPU.

For example,
FP16 (half) performance
RX 6900 XT: 46.08 TFLOPS (2:1)
RTX 3090: 35.58 TFLOPS (1:1)

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Not really because the performance seems to be the same.

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Any comparision of 6800XT vs 6900XT? If itā€™s close-ish (i.e. more like the 72 vs 80 that the cores suggest vs 2:3 like the price does) then itā€™s worth putting 2 6800XT in a machine instead of 1x 6900XT. Have best of both worlds for optimum price efficiency also.

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I would say 6800XT could be 5% slower than 6900XT. Of course you can use 2x 6800XT, but remember, Artemis doesnā€™t scale mGPU properly. And power consumption is what you should care about. What I can say is that running VEAI is as same as crypto mining.

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OK thanks. Yes, but for models that can use the mGPU, there should be close to double the performance of a single 6900xt, for about the same price, and less than 2x the power draw, so seems like the optimum config. When using single-GPU models, like Artemis as youā€™ve recommended, if the drop is only 5% then unless you really --really-- need that extra 5% performance, either save money with a 6800xt or get a second 6800XT to use when the mGPU models are suitable.
Yes if one is --only-- going to use Artemis ----andā€” the 5% extra is important then the 6900xt makes senseā€¦ otherwise the 6800xt seems a no-brainer to me :slight_smile:

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I use Artemis models most of the time. So mGPU is not for me. And I want to save myself from electrical surge when peak loads happen that could go up to 1200W. Then you have to buy a new 1600W psu or maybe 2000W. Then a single GPU is the way to go. mGPU is not worth it in any scenario.

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Will tell you why itā€™s worth it for me.
A 5.7K upscale to 4320p takes about 4s per frame. For even a 10min video thatā€™s a couple of days with a single GPU. Any time the mGPU model --can-- be used (satisfactorily) will save me a day of processing.
If youā€™ re saying that Artemis is soo much better than the mGPU models that itā€™s literally not even worth trying them, then ok, could not argue there.

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Btw electrical surges you can deal with with a $40 surge protector :))

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And then upscale everything again? Or you canā€™t even run it in 5 min without the computer or the surge shut themselves off? You can spend money the way you want. But donā€™t comeback and tell me why VEAI doesnā€™t save you 50% upscaling time because that wonā€™t happen. 20% time saving for 100% money + 100% electricity + 1000% surge trigger or computer crash. Or even destroy the footage due to the crash. If itā€™s worth for you then OK. Iā€™m here for advises, not for stopping you.