Feature Improvement | Reorder Enhancements By Click & Drag

Topaz Photo Ideas
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I like the new features and the layout. It would be nice to reorder the enhancements by clicking and dragging them to a new position and then having the enhancements rerun.

Workflow Improvement | Processing Rendering Order
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Thanks for the suggestion!

Make sure that you do not forget to vote for your idea :slight_smile:

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Hello @prichardson.family :slight_smile:

The Ability to change the order of enhancements by drag and drop is now possible in any of the Photo AI 3 versions. Let us know if you are able to test it and if you have any feedback!

Here is a link to our latest version, v3.1.0 released today:

Let me know if any issues arise!

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Was this feature removed as of version 4.0 ???

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Hi Niko.

Yes, this behaviour was changed as of version 4, in favour of a fixed stack system so that the user can see exactly the order in which the Enhancements are applied

So, if for instance, the first Enhancement you select will be placed at the bottom of the stack and subsequent Enhancements will be placed on top similar to placing Layers on top of one another.

Basically, oldest Enhancement at the bottom of the stack and newest Enhancement at the top which brings Photo AI in line with similar applications

Where as before, the stack order was always applied from top to bottom which is different from Lightroom, Photoshop or other applications.

The only caveat is Upscale will always be applied last

hope this helps

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I can reorder layers freely in Photoshop and such.

Now if Sharpen is applied and I apply Noise Reduction filter, the Noise reduction goes after Sharpen, which is wrong. And in order to add Noise, I need delete Sharpen, and add Noise and then Sharpen again

Isn’t cumbersome?

Make then please so that each filter is applied in correct place, like Sharpen always after Noise reduction

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I don’t work for Topaz just someone like yourself who uses the software

My intention with Photoshop, was to say when you save an image with several Layers then, Photoshop will save those Layers from top uppermost Layer to bottom Background Layer.

Which wasn’t the behaviour with Photo AI before version 4 meaning, when selecting Enhancements to be added to the Stack, Photo AI would apply Enhancements in the opposite order meaning, the Enhancement at the bottom of the Stack was applied first and the top of the Stack was applied last.

This behaviour was changed with version 4 simply because it makes more sense to go from top to bottom rather than bottom to top

Therefore, if you import an image into Photo AI and Autopilot decided from the image information it received from the initial Image Analysis to apply Sharpening only and you decide, you want to apply Denoising to the Stack by placing Denoise on top of Sharpening then, this would be correct.

So, when the image is processed then, Denoise will be applied before Sharpening because, you have placed Denoise on top of Sharpening which is what you wanted.

RAW Workflow:
Working with RAW Images Topaz Photo AI will always apply Denoise before Sharpening automatically.

This used to be the case for Non-RAW Images as well however, Topaz in their wisdom decided to change this behaviour and here’s the current recommended Workflow

Recommended order

RAW Denoise (if RAW file) → Dust and Scratch → Super Focus → Remove Noise → Sharpen → Remove Object → Adjust Lighting → Balance Color → Recover Faces → Preserve Text → Upscale

Hope this helps

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I’d suggest to use the remove tool before any other filters are applied.
Especially for the upscaling this is counter productive in the current order as the remove tools mask is limited to 2000pix for high quality inpainting and in general seems to work better on not so high res material.

So blowing up the images pixel count in front of removing objects is a bad idea and I find myself constantly disabling all filters, doing the remove then save in a first step and load the image again to the upscale /sharpen/denoisei in a second TPAI step.

If the remove tool could snap in before those enhancements are done this would surely make up for a better workflow.

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Thanks for the idea and suggestion! Make sure that you do not forget to vote for your idea :slight_smile:

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All,
I am having very good results - in some cases spectacular - with a project to scan old negatives of people. Mold is typically the issue I am correcting. Hair is a strong point for Photo AI and it does a remarkably good job there.
What I see needing improvement is skin areas near the eyes, nose, and mouth. If the area to remove is close to those features, it tends to “meld” the eye, nose, or corners into the area needing to be removed. If this can be addressed the remove function will be truly killer. If you would like samples, I can send them. Thank you! Bill Kennon, billkennon@outlook.com

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Hi

Please remove your contact details from the community forum as this isn’t a secure place and is open to anyone

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Hi.

Interesting would you mind posting a couple of examples

Thanks

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We lost this ability with the release of version 4 and it really is a drag on creative productivity to have to wipe out the stack and rebuild it every time we want to try a different process sequence out.

Also, this time please correct the fundamental limitation you’ve imposed on our creativity and allow Upscaling to happen anywhere in the stack. For example Denoise typically makes sense before Upscale, but Remove and Sharpen may do better after Upscale.

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Oh thank you for adding that improvement! I’ll check it out.

  • Paul Richardson
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As it appears that you recommend that Denoise be performed before Sharpening, why not provide an option for Denoise to ‘always’ be run before sharpening, even if you added it after a run with sharpening. Of course, as an option, you could turn this off if you want the order to be different. But because this is your preferred order, having an option to set the order before working on a photo might just facilitate the process a bit.
Thank you.