VEAI Performance

Hello! i was lucky enough to win 9k at the casino so i bought a small config. I ordered a sapphire rx 6900 xt with 32gb ram and a ryzen 9 3900x. does this software work well with an amd gpu?

Yes, but Intel CPU with faster single core will be better. 12900K with DDR5 outperforms 5950X by 25% in VEAI for now.

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Hello, what about the VEAI Performance situation one year later, January 2022 ?

Whaaaaaaat? :persevere:

didnĀ“t change much in the last two weeks :slight_smile:

Iā€™m also running a 3090 and have noticed the same thing when it comes to the odd pulsing coil whine noise, though Iā€™m not having any completion time issues.

All my Pro GPUs make noise when running software on TL.

The software also really demands power.

Because a second GPU brings about 23 - 25% more in gigapixel and denoise (2x RTX 5000) I wonder if a single Radeon Pro W6800 (RX 6800/XT) would also manage what the two Nvidias do.

Any suggestions?

Am a proud owner of an RTX 3080 Ti now. :slight_smile: Some preliminary tests showed that, indeed, the GPU is not 100% utilized (not even close), but the card is drawing near or over 300W nonetheless, almost constantly. Simply put: the card is drawing more power than a simple TDP/utilization division would suggest.

I donā€™t think this is an indication of anything being wrong per se. For one (unless youā€™re doing some dangerous modding), you canā€™t get your card to draw more than its TDP anyway. And, more to the point, drawing that much power is a good indication the card is working at near capacity, after all, even if VEAI apparently only uses a subset of its instructions, or simply performs calulations that, even at 25%, appear to use up all available power.

we proposed this a few times, but only a few ā€œprivateā€ attempts started, there is no comprehensive super list with all the benchmark data in it and a search function (like opendata for blender)ā€¦

You could start one :slight_smile:

Some data is to be found here:

The spreadsheet originated from a user here in the forumā€¦

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I canā€™t seem to start a new topic, but does anyone know what kind of performance bump I can expect from a similarly configured 3060 vs 3080 laptop? Say itā€™s the same brand, processor, RAM, SSD speed?

All benchmarks I have found online mention Resolve and Gaming. I can see there is around a 20-30% fps bump between the two, but for Topaz, what kind of bump could I expect from:

1080p to 2160p - High Quality Model? Either in seconds per frame, percentage etc?

Thanks in advance.

Close to the performance of a 3070 Desktop i think.


Thats two Quadro RTX 5000 (44 Teraflop fp16), they are @ the same speed as a single 3090 (35 Teraflop fp16).

A Labtop 3080 clould be a little bit less than the half.

1080p ->> 2160p

Artemis Models - 0.35 sec.

Gaia Models - 0.54 - 0.56 sec.

Theia Models - 0.58 - 0.62 sec.

Iā€™m confused about all of the terminology. I used to be up on all the latest tech before I retired from broadcasting a few years back, but jumping in now is a whole new ballgame. My poor brain needs some help!!!

I took advantage of that the great Thanksgiving sale on Video Enhance AI. Iā€™m impressed so far with the little Iā€™ve been able to do on my PC with only CPU, but itā€™s incredibly slow, as expected. 1.5 secs per frame for cleanup, no upscaling, for example.

Finding a GPU thatā€™s affordable without taking out a second mortgage has been impossible, and even they are ā€œout of stockā€. A local system builder and I are working on an updated system for me, and he can get the AMD RX 550 at a reasonable cost, but we arenā€™t sure from all weā€™ve researched if this GPU will be useful with VE AI or the Topaz photo apps. I mostly would do enhancement of SD camcorder and VHS video (noise reduction, cleanup, etc.), and very little upscaling or HD that needs extensive cleanup at this time. So for now, I just need something faster than the CPU only, to tide me over until the availability of a better solution.

RX 550 or any (better than entry level) card suggestions based on otherā€™s experiences would be greatly appreciated. I might add that my current workflow is using Neat Video thru VirtualDub which averages about 27fps. I am reasonably pleased wit the results, but at first glance VEIA is superior.

thanks again.

Tom

Hey Tom, from where you are? country.

USA, Thomas.

I had some mentionings of older and lower end cards over the years and posted some results over at facebook, so I can give you some hints:

  • back when cards had sane prices, the VEGA 64/56 cards were the best budget option. They easily achieved the same speed as bigger GEN20 RTX Cards and in some cases even were en par with GEN30 cards. Back then, these cards where around 250 bucks - one barely got an RTX 2060 back then for the same priceā€¦ Nowadays, the very good mining performance of the VEGA 64/56 card sadly has pushed prices to insane levelsā€¦

  • if you mostly stay with SD Resolutions, you could take a look at older Maxwell or Kepler cards with around 4GB of VRAM and a lot of cores. If you get them for a fair price, they are comparable to RX550 in speed in VEAI or other video filters and offer CUDA as well, which might give you a little more options with other filter/scaler/enhancer stuffā€¦

  • My personal ā€œsecret weaponā€ at the moment is the R9 Fury X, which somehow can be seen as a predecessor to the VEGA64, since it also uses HBM Memory and also has 4096 Coresā€¦ The mem controller on this GCN 3.0 Generation Card can only adress 4GB VRAM (GCN 5.1 can do much more) and FP16 Performance is not doubled like with later cards - and in Gaming this card barely competes to smaller Nvidia-counterpartsā€¦ Butā€¦ bandwith of the HBM Memory and the 4096 cores really give this card a very good performanceā€¦ 4GB of VRAM are enough for SD Material - and since the Card can use FP16 models (which use lesser VRAM) and VEAI can be told to reduce VRAM Load - 4GB can be enough for many projectsā€¦ SInce these cards donĀ“t mine Ethereum, are not very fast at gaming, need quite some power and are not very popular, thy are cheap ā€¦ You can get one for around 200 bucks in the water cooled variant and easily destroy something like a 1080TI in VEAIā€¦ R9 nano is almost the same speed, less power draw, air cooled - also a good choiceā€¦

All in all - GCN Cards are good for calculations with OPEN CL and DirectMLā€¦

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oops, I just realised I already mentioned all of the above in this threadā€¦ I assumed since you asekd for an option faster than your RX 550ā€¦ oh wellā€¦

Iā€™ve ordered a W6800, does anyone need any numbers from TL Software.

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Some values ā€‹ā€‹720p / 1080p to 4K with GaiaHQ V5 would be great. Thank you!
It doesnā€™t look as good compared to a 3080 Ti. Iā€™m curious.

0.56 1080pā€“>4K Gaia - V5 - MP4 - Quality Setting ā€œ20ā€.

Intel PCI-E 3.0, 7820X CPU. <ā€” i think the CPU is too slow for this GPU.

Tomorrow Threadripper 3960X.


The following can be cool or not, I think it is cool.

If the driver crashes because an APP hangs, it automatically generates an error message and and creates a summary of the system and asks you what you did and what was going on, after you did type in you expirience the app sends it to AMD.

I had to change an app so that it ran properly.


Compared to my two Quadro RTX 5000 its very loud but needs half the power of the two at the same speed for Gaia.


Here is a Screen Recoding.

https://youtu.be/kGeZ5Ceq4mY

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