Topaz Video AI 5.5 + 5.5.1

I think you missed the part where my gpu is a rtx 3080, and the only thing it does faster(by a neglible margin) are the interpolation models.

Yes, missed that part. But your 3080 outperforming my 4090, that’s no good. :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

I just went back to v5.3.6 too, as the VFR issue hasn’t been solved yet. 0 frame drops on a new job (aka, no VFR any more).

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I’m flirting with the ASUS TUF RTX 4070 Ti SUPER OC with 16GB Vram to replace my Asus 470 none TI (NVIDIA AD104) with 12GB Vram.

According to benchmarks, the TUF RTX 4070 Ti is at least 30% faster. What I also like is that the frame and cover is made of solid metal and it should be very quiet even under full load

Do these also perform better with TVAI? What do you think is worth or just a small step upwards?

Personally, I would never do this. For starters, +30% added to an already suboptimal card, is still not worth it. Get an RTX 4090 instead. And if you can afford it, get an RTX 5090 (any time soon now). The latter sits in another price bracket than a 4070, of course; but point being, if you want to buy a new card for TVAI, make sure it’s a substantial step up from what you have now.

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Ok thanks, this is a 2000$ card, and the 490 is also very expensive, then I’ll keep my 470 and wait and see

It’s what I would do, yes; safe up a few months, and then update to a really good card – one that actually makes you feel the difference. :slight_smile:

alright :slightly_smiling_face:

Mind you, this is not about money per se; I just want a card that’s substantially better than the one I have, or I wouldn’t buy a new one. Like if they brought out a new RTX 4090 Ti, I would not buy it (difference being too minimal); the RTX 5090, however, I will buy.

Real I have many problems even with 5.4.0. I don’t want clouds, just normal work.

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This whole detour clouds the entire development of TVAI. Back to home user funtionality! Starting with a VFR fix, please.

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Actually, When this came out in beta I actually asked about this, and are they going to allow users to host their GPUs for parallel processing, and Topaz devs said that the reason they do not allow this is security reasons. If they send us portions to transcode, we could theoretically view the material.
They did confirm they are indeed breaking the video into small parts and running it across their farm in parallel.

I thought it would have been a much better idea to make a cloud only version, FREE, so you pay for credits to render, or the two packages, Home user and Pro use. Home use is the app for $40/yr and $100/lifetime without the multi-card farm and license not allowing professional work done on that license, and professional is $299 with the ent portions included. Then you have three full different versions that would make more sense than throwing one large app that does it all and charge everyone ent prices.
I, again, cannot stress how much their pricing model is off and wrong for non-pro users. Will some cheap users actually use the home license and use it for pro work? Absolutely, but small loss with how many home users you pick up, who then get used to it and get work to buy it so they can use it there. THAT is how companies build up users bases.

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The VFR thing was the reason I downgraed to 5.3.6. I can live with many bugs temporarily but not this one!

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Comparing the speed of the old and new versions



Well, the total time

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I was observing every beta (and stable coming out of it) since the moment it clicked that this feature is either broken or turned off on purpose.

The application crashes occasionally. ffmpg is still running. I dunno if this is related to Intels stability issue with the i9 13900K. The crash is not shown in the reliability monitor of Windows 11 though. I send you the log files anyway:
logsForSupport.zip (1.8 MB)

Personally, I doubt it . If ffmpeg is still running, then your CPU is fine, as the process is really ffmpeg, and not the GUI (except for when it ties into the log maybe). I would just let the ffmpeg process run out. :slight_smile: Chances are your render process still finishes correctly.

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REMINDER: The current Topaz Black Friday sale for Video AI and others ends tomorrow, 12/2.

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In all honesty, I fully agree with nick.lange who says that a “cloud” version should be a separate software or service and not inserted into the standard desktop processing software. This leads me to decide not to update the software, not updating the software now means staying on the previous version, not updating it in months, with many updates released, is a problem that can also lead me to no longer have interest in updating the license at the next expiration.
You are completely free to develop a cloud version, you are a company and as such it is normal and natural to aim for profit, but it should be a separate software or online service, it should not be implemented in the desktop software.
I sincerely hope that this will not happen in the future also on TPAI, which I also own and have a license for, now they have implemented the Super Focus in BETA which is heavy to render, if the idea is also to put the cloud in that software, I will find myself not updating that either.
I repeat, you have every right to develop a software or a service for cloud rendering, it can be very useful for some users and certainly generates profit, but it must not interfere with the users who have chosen to buy a software for desktop and local use, it must be a third-party software and unrelated to these desktop software.

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I haven’t used Super Focus yet; but the whole idea, quite frankly, sounds quite idiotic to me.

See, it’s a well-known fact upscaling generally makes things look better (more interpolation room). Check. A very old technique, already used to Anti-Alias sources, by first upscaling them significantly, and then downscaling again. It worked (a bit; it’s not magic). And that is what TVAI should do: upscale x2, then back to the orginal, and hope for some improvements. However, what TVAI does is downright absurd, really: they first downscale x2, then upscale again! That is like saying “I will help you improve image quality by 10%, but you have to throw away 50% of your image detail first.”

I get that first upscaling, then downscaling again, takes more time than the opposite, but Super Focus, the way its currently implemented, is too bizarre for words. Make it make sense.