Topaz AI which GPU?

Hello,

I am wondering, how much would make a decent GPU difference in Speed and quality of AIconversions?
running 12th gen i7 12700
128 ram
samsung 990pro 2tb

with no GPU.

What would be the best GPU to get?

Still doubting on Topaz and AVCLABS, what is the difference in output? I am planning to try trial versions of both and compare.

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You can view the benchmark here :grinning:

Seems very technical to me :stuck_out_tongue:

Like upscaling a LOW Q video ca 4 minutes to 4k 90fps takes around 4hours now for me. with the intel i7 cpu no GPU.

Hi there!

First of all, thank you for your interest in Video AI :slight_smile:

For Graphics cards, I would strongly recommend a recent GPU that is branded for gaming, think RTX 3060 or 3090 (or higher).

More robust hardware will improve overall performance and processing speed. Your computer’s ability to process a video may be affected by the size of the files and the number of frames. It is possible to exceed the resources of a minimally equipped computer and cause errant behavior.

If you post the original dimensions of the video you mentioned, e.g. 640 x 480 or whatever, we can give you an idea how long that should take you for upscale to say 1080p or 4K, for a given graphics card.

The suggestion of an RTX 3060 ti is a good one though, because they are currently heavily discounted and even an RTX 4080 or 4090 will only roughly double your upscaling speed (a bit less for the 4080, a bit more for the 4090). 3060 ti is the more cost-effective option, not the fastest as mentioned, but far far faster than your CPU alone.

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Here’s my findings on AVCLABS from a while back.

Hello all,

I’m sorry for not responding due to circumstances.

I still don’t have a video card.

I have old handycam tape recordings from late 90’s which I wanna upscale to 1080p, 4k or even higher. if possible. With CPU it takes days and days.

Doubting to buy a 3060.

I have like total 4 a 5 hours of my old childhood videos.

Maybe the 3060 would be the best bang for the buck? Also which brand?

I see 3060 is only few hundred euro’s while 4080 for example already 1000 euro.

What would you guys suggest?

im looking at some benchmarks. The 3060 120min 1080p to 4k in 16 hours is quite doable for me.

About 4 minutes SD quality to 4k takes me 5 days with my CPU now

I’d rather avoid upgrading my case or PSU

Category Product

1 Processors Intel Core i7-12700 Boxed
1 Motherboards ASUS PRIME Z690-P WIFI D4
1 USB/Storage controllers ASUS ThunderboltEX 4
1 Cases be quiet! Pure Base 500DX Black
1 Processor cooling Noctua NH-U12S redux
1 Internal memory Kingston Fury Beast KF436C18BBK4/128
1 Power supplies Fractal Design ION+ 560W Platinum

Later I also added:
Samsung 990 PRO 2tb
Samsung 990 PRO 2tb with heatsink
Samsung 980PRO 1TB
All M2 ssd.

The RTX 3060 or 3060 ti are still good options. I think you’ll be pleased with the speed they can do.

Thanks for your response! Can I pick the cheapest brand or is there any difference?

There shouldn’t be any real difference in performance. Nvidia has basically made sure of that. There might be a difference in customer support. I avoid some big brand names because of that. That’s not a factor when buying used though.

The cheapest are Asus and KFA for 350 - 370 Eur

And some are even the double

So it’s only for the brand name people pay the double? What a waste of money. not?

I don’t know what’s going on with those prices. Maybe the sellers spent too much on stocking those years ago, and don’t want to take the loss, even though the value has gone down.

Ahh! so I just take the cheapest one. KFA2 for 349 or Palit for 349 or maybe the refurbished for 250

But I see different Max clock speeds? And for example the Palit is written behind it " Dual "?

But I see the 3060 without TI has more ram. and is cheaper hmmmm…

And the 4060ti is 375, just 25 euro’s more expensive than the 3060ti

Btw, I use a 4k screen: Dell UP3214Q
Will the 3060ti work?

It should be fine for that screen.
For TVAI the extra speed of the ti is worth it.

I know for some things, the 4070 and 4070 ti cards are not as good. Looking at the the benchmarks, it appears they are the same. Hard to tell since the CPU plays a big part in the score. The 3060 scores tend to be on old CPUs.

You should be fine with 8GB VRAM going to 4k. (Though I don’t think going to 4K is a useful endeavor.)

Ohh, why would upscaling to 4k not be usefull? U mean max 1080p? I think I should learn more about the software hahaha

I now see that the 4060ti and 4060 probably won’t be compatible with my PSU. So I think I have to stick with the 3060ti or 3060.

So from what i’ve read the 3060ti is a better choice? Over the 3060.

From what I learnt trying tons of GPUs there : latest RTX as possible.

Do not focus on GDDR amount or speed, it is vastly unused.
So RTX 4090 is king of the hill.

AMD boards are behind because of unoptmized code (Tensor optimized).

If you’re rich enough go, for tons of RTX 3070 + pro license. They do very good job, 8 GB is fair enough and you can put many of it on a board with PCIE Gen4 splitter for a very descent price. I would anyway suggest to keep x8 not x4.

It was said that TVAI does not use much of PCIE bandwidth but with high end boards, it does.

Notice that RAM speed/latency is very important, almost as much as GPU. It shouldn’t but it is. I just went to DDR5 6000 and the difference is gigantic from DDR4 4000 (B-Die).

Haha yes a 4090 would be heaven but It costs more than my whole desktop hahaha

I see it going for 2000 eur.

The 3060ti is only 375

The 4060/ti is a special case where they limited the bandwidth on it, and it does preform worse than the 3060/ti in several cases.

Get a 3070 it has 32 tensor core more and 1500 MHz stock speed.

It will cost you around $250, there are tons of it on market due to their mining end life.