[PRESETS CONTROLS] - Presets that does NOT memorize fixed settings

Please consider and add an option to create a preset that does NOT memorize fixed settings, but instead uses filters from the preset with automatic value adjustments, like an autopilot mode but only with selected filters? For example, I want to use only denoise, face recovery, and upscale, but I want the autopilot to determine their values rather than having them fixed like it’s currently possible with presets.

Or even better, let the user choose which filters to be automatically set by the autopilot while saving presets, while others can be manually fixed. This is the biggest advantage of presets.

Once an entire folder (or selection) of images are loaded, the ability to make a change on one image, and apply it to part of the batch that was loaded and not the entire batch.

In some cases, the AI will chose strong sharpening, but regular is a better fit. I can manually select it for that photo, but if I took a high speed sequence of shots, having to manually change 10-30 photos is a pain. So if I could select the settings for that one photo and then paste them into a selection of other photos, that would be great.

I could do my folder of photos in smaller batches, but then i risk forgetting a photo, or whatever.

I agree. If you are taking 1,000’s of photos you need a simple copy current settings which then allows you to select X amount of photos in the queue (supporting crtl click as well as shift click) right click and then have “apply current settings”. This shouldn’t be difficult to do and would make a world of difference to those photographer working with large volumes of photos.

You can see that the tool is targeted at casual users doing no more than 20 photos at a time. I have previously stated that they should allow a batching process to occur where you can save the settings for 100’s of different batches and then process them as a group. This would allow you to run them overnight when electricity is cheaper.

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gigapixel already solved this with its row/column select bold change color selection interface, and not just for all settings it only applies changed settings. So you can have subset of images and a subset of settings that you want to change. So please try that UI if you have that older tool (if not they bundle the old tools for cheap upgrades)

For example just the rez on these, just the ai enhance model on those, just the sharpness slider on that - and each of those sets could have venn diagram intersections.

Significantly easier to use than a thumbnail view, this is why Windows offers both types of views for decades. Sometimes you want to see all the details across more files so you can more easily select and verify the changes are applied correctly and this is far easier with column lists and row details.

Another option that I think should be added that sort of is in line with this… it is the ability to select Standard sharpening and use that across a selection. While that can sort of be done now, it copies and uses the same values across all photos instead of using AI. I find sometimes strong sharpening is too much and standard looks better, but if I copy it across the entire selection it uses the same values instead of analyzing the photos and using proper values.

This is what gigapixel already did, whatever you edit applies to selected. Edit a value then they all get that value, toggle on auto then they all run auto to get their values, but auto can be auto choose model or manual choose model and get auto parameters.

The only thing it does not do is show you the value that auto would pick but of course that is not known until it is processed. Still would be nice if the spreadsheet view would update like “auto(value)” after the processing so you can see at a glance if anything is falling out of line that needs a closer look.

I am not expecting it to tell me what values it will use ahead of time. However, I would like to be able to choose auto settings, on a specific model. So out of 1000 photos in a batch, the ability to select 100 (for example) of them, have it use the standard sharpening model for those 100, but also have it use auto parameters for those 100 photos which were set to use the standard sharpening model.

Right now, the only way is to do the 1000 in smaller chunks. Load in each mini batch separately. However, that is not really convenient. I do not know ahead of time which model works better. I do spot check, and notice that sometimes strong sharpening is way too strong and looks bad.

This is exactly how you can use gigapixel, as I said you can subset settings and photos. Those settings can be all auto, or choose model but with auto param, or choose manual param. Basically the way it works is anything changed in the settings panel gets applied to the subset of photos. It does not apply the parameter values unless you change the parameter values themselves. It would then show you in the spreadsheet style interface if auto parameter or manual parameter is set using color coding (yellow is auto)

You can do the spot checks because the spreadsheet style interface can include (or not) the previewer. So you can easily change usage modes on the fly.

Good to know. I never used giga so I never personally experienced how it is set up. Let us hope that they implement this in Photo AI.

Swing some votes my way if you can since that is all they seem to look at!

Yes, I think I have a similar issue. I take a lot of wildlife photos and like to preprocess before I choose the ones to work on. For many of these I find Motion blur is very useful and usually the autopilot selects an a reasonable setting. I often have several similar shots and it would be immensely useful to be able to preselect Motion blur and sharpening as a preset (or any other setting you might prefer) It can be very time consuming to select these manually over several shots. I think others have mentioned something similar is available in some of the other Topaz software.

I would like to be able to select a group of photos and have photo table is AI apply auto pilot settings to all and then to save them. I would also like to be able to do the same, but to apply specific, save the settings to all, and then have them saved

Wish settings would return to autopilot after closing and reopening. I run autopilot and then adjust settings from there for each image. However I have to reset to autopilot each time I reopen Photo AI for a new image.

There are a few autopilot preference settings hidden under the colon in the upper right corner of screen. Check that out.

Thanks but I don’t see anything there to rectify the issue.

Apply / Current Settings to All is a nice idea.
I can select for example enhance resolution, graphics, sharpen, standard and so on.
And then I can apply the current settings to all loaded images.

But my problem is the following: Every image is different in terms of how much sharpen strength / sharpen clarity / enhance suppression noise / enhance remove blur is needed for the selected feature. The auto detection is pretty good (when I load every image separately). When I use apply current settings to all, it also copies all of these slider values over to all opened pictures (even if I didn’t even manually touch the sliders and they still show green meaning detected default value). As a result it applies all values (from the first opened image) and applies these to all other opened images, which makes this batch feature unusable :frowning:

Is there any way for me just to copy the selected filters / models (without their auto-detected slider values)? There are of course sliders (which are not auto-detected) that are important to copy over, like strength of face recovery (as they are just user preferences). I’m just talking about not copying the auto-detected ones.

If not, could you possibly add something like “Apply / Current Settings to All (without auto-values)” to a future version? So that these are still auto detected for each image?

That would really help.

Steps to reproduce issue:

  1. Open multiple pictures
  2. Set some main features like enhance resolution, graphics and/or sharpen standard
  3. Click on the 3 dots on the image in the thumb view and select Apply / Current Settings to All
  4. Now click on any other image (already loaded)
  5. When you compare detail values (from the sliders) you will see, that all slider values mirror the values of the first loaded picture the settings were applied from. It does not auto-detect the optimal values for the other images.
  6. As a result only the first image will have its best look. All the other images will look worse than they could (as the values were not really ment for these images, but for the first one)

P.S. I would have loved to use CLI as an alternative, but so far it lacks the ability for the user to set specific models (e.g. enhance=gfx, sharpen=std and so on) and will force autopilot all images.

Thanks a lot in advance.


Topaz Photo AI [v1.3.5] on [Windows]

Addendum: It is no fun having to do this to every picture manually in order to get the auto-values.
I just had to do this for about a hundred images. I had already collected them in one separate folder and loaded them all into Photo AI.

But then for every image: Clicking on the image in the thumbs view, then you have to wait for the UI. And while it is loading (detecting subject) the layout also changes so that the on/off buttons change positions. Even after they reach their final positions they are still not directly clickable until all loading has finished (detecting faces, …). Only then you can click on them or expand the models and select what you actually want.

It’s no problem for a single image. But for hundreds of pictures this makes you go mad :frowning:
So I very much hope, that this is (or will be) possible via batch :wink:

This isn’t possible yet, but I’ve just moved this to our Ideas forum so the developers can review it :smiley:

Thanks! An idea (from a developer point of view, since I am one *g).
You could add a bool flag for each slider representing “the auto-generated value is used”.
As soon as someone touches the slider (changing the value or not) or types a value (even if it is the same value), the checkbox clears. If one wants to use the auto-value again, all one has to do is click on the checkbox again.

The big advantage would be that for “apply changes to all images” you would then know exactly which values the user actually touched and wanted applied to other images. All sliders still having the would not be copied along.

Currently you have the green dot there indicating auto or not, and double clicking on the slider to reset to auto; but an explicit checkbox would additionally hold the information “value was manually set and is therefore relevant for copying”.

This was already done in Gigapixel, the problem with Photo is the hover/thumbnail preview is the worst interface for this. GigaPixel has an alternate row/column spreadsheet style interface so that when you select a subset of images then select the subset of auto model or auto values or manual values that you want to change for that image set , it easily bolds/colors the rows/columns that change and a few quick scrolls you can verify before save that you have the right changes to the right images.

Windows has long used both styles of views, thumbnails and row/column details because both are better at different tasks.

I have already requested they port that UI option to Photo, as it already went thru the refinement process of user feedback so that it suited their batch workflows.

https://community.topazlabs.com/t/port-the-spreadsheet-style-interface-that-gigapixel-had-as-a-ui-option/45239/6

If you have not used that interface I highly recommend it, the old tools are cheap bundle adds to photo if you do not have it. That statement also applies to the devs, because the dev responded to it previously had clearly never used gigapixel in that way.