Photo AI 2.0.1

Sending a copy of the Background Layer from Photoshop 24.7.1 or 25.0.0 to Photo AI 2.0.1, processed by default analysis for Removing Noise and saving back to Photoshop: the returned, processed layer is not completely opaque/is not an independent image layer. Turning on/off the original layer below visibly changes the degree of luminescence and the “grain/noise” visible in the layer that was returned from Photo AI 2.0.1.

Original layer and returned copy are both “Normal” layers.

Steps to reproduce issue:

Described above


Topaz Photo AI [v2.0.1] on [Mac]
M2 Max MacBook Pro, 64GB RAM

Thanks for reaching out. Please take a screen recording of this behavior so I can see exactly what is happening. Loom is a great free application for this: Download the Loom Desktop App | Loom

Topaz Photo AI does not change opacity for output. We added a feature to adjust lighting and color balance. Did you use either of those on the image?

I don’t think you’ll learn anything actionable from a film.

Here’s a link to a tif of the cropped original photoshop layer.

https://www.dropbox.com/t/d1R1TC8totiZE2vC

I have tested this tif and can reproduce the problem after loading this tif into photoshop. Load tif. Copy the layer. Send the copied layer to Photo AI. It will probable default to sharpen, even though it’s noisy. But whether you select to sharpen or remove noise using AI defaults for either, send it back to photoshop. Turn on and off the original layer which should be below the copy. And watch areas in shadows and deep shadows brighten when the AI layer stands alone and darken when the original layer below is turned back on. Both layers set as “Normal.” Thanks

Thanks for sending the file. I was able to reproduce this and tried figuring out the cause. I’m not sure why this is happening as the blend mode is normal and opacity is at 100%.

I haven’t seen other reports of this yet. Does this happen for other images? How much is this affecting your work?

Hey, thank you for giving it a go. Reassuring that you see it, too. (I also see the same behavior with Topaz Sharpen AI 4.1.0.) Right: Opacity is 100% and Blend Mode is Normal.

Yes, I am able to see it with other images derived from Fuji RAF 40mp (raw) files. When I have a chance, I can look into older 16MP Fuji raw files as well as Nikon raw from the D800 36mp sensor.

It does not seem to matter what the underlying layer is. I’ve reproduced the lack of total opacity in the Topaz layer using a solid red filled layer under it.

Interesting to me, also, is that the correct tonal balance in the Topaz AI layer is only achieved when the original layer below is enabled. When the lower layer is turned off, the shadows and blacks are washed out. Brighter colors do not seem (visibly) affected. So, the lack of opacity may be limited by specific spectrum of luminosity, maybe color, too. I’ve not done exhaustive testing. I do see the effect with B&W layers, as well.

My workaround is simple: Create a layer that combines the original and the Topaz AI layer, or merge them, and then go on from there. The merged layer seems satisfactory – again no exhaustive comparative analyses.

The effect of this apparent glitch on my workflow is minimal, merging layers, but, it does seem to be a glitch, and I would think that understanding the underlying cause could be useful.

Writing a paper at the moment. When I get back to images, if I find anything more I’ll check back. Again, I really appreciate your taking a look at this, too,
Brad

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