Estimate Or Manual enhancement iris protheus watch your english guys

Hi There Topaz

Can you please change the name of manual to estimate a Novice will skip the manual selection as it implies the user sets the setting which is actually more applicable for Relative to Auto

Please watch your english it is not up to standards

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people in glass houses should not throw stones

Seriously, the three settings ā€œAutoā€, ā€œRelative to Autoā€ and ā€œManualā€ should be quite clear and do what they say. And the button ā€œEstimateā€ under the Manual section also does exactly what one would expect (although it’s not always really doing good at estimating the correct settings like TPAIs Autopilot - but that is another thing).

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The problem with should is that it is should but actually You do not get the point

Estimation only becomes visible when manual is chosen if you are a novice user you go for automatic or relative to automatic which is actually where you set the manual changes

In other words if you do not choose manual you do not get the estimation button and you will never ever see how topaz sees the estimation.

Hence the template for your video adjustments is obscured just by using the word manual

Communication is key I am really annoyed by this complete misnomer of Topaz

I’ve noticed that the results I get from Manual/Estimate are different from what I get from Auto. So IMO it wouldn’t be a bad idea to have at least the option of the sliders visible all the time.

Yes i also see when doing manual then estimate

And then go to relative to auto it maintains the estimate settings you only get from manual and doing estimate.

Only restarting the topaz resets relative to auto to 0

I am also very disappointed why second enancement is called second enhancement

Why when using second enhancement a very specific list of enhancements is valid

It should be called optimization to differentiate between the the first enhancements and second enhancements

Dione and theia artemis are always availbe when using the second or optimizing but only with one option.

In short estimation should be a seperate button always be avalable

No. They have it made, labeled and laid-out well.
Estimate is only meant to be useful in the Manual settings mode. It does nothing in Auto mode, and does not do the same thing as the manual setting in Relative to Auto mode.
Example:
If I click estimate in manual mode, and it chooses 50 for sharpen, then I switch it to relative to auto keeping that value of 50 in the sharpen slider, the value of 50 will not be applied to that section of the video. It will estimate 50 just like it did in manual mode, but then it will apply the percentage offset, and add 50% to that. So like 75?

Relative to Auto sliders are to be set by previewing the default results and making adjustments accordingly. Using the values from the estimate button in manual mode, but in relative to auto mode, will almost always be over or under what the AI deemed good.

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But you do not get the point

Estimate is hidden under manual which is wrong not under relative to auto

hence without manual you do not have a clue what is estimated at all…

Where is the estimation under secondary enhancement you found it…

That information has not helped me yet. When I do try to use it, usually it comes down to Anti-Alias/Deblur is not near where I need it to be, and no amount of adjusting the slider in Relative to Auto will get it there.
In the rare occasion that I do find a movie that comes out good in Auto mode, I leave it on Auto. I’m sure Relative to Auto would work well on it. But again, knowing what the manual estimate button would tell me is not helpful. I need to make adjustments based on what the previews are showing me.

That’s not an ā€˜idea’. That’s a bug or issue. Please make a detailed report in the Bugs and Issues section—if one has not been made yet.

Antialiasing / deblurring is a bit flaky if set to high it can increase artifacts

Anti-aliasing is a technique used in image processing to reduce or eliminate the occurrence of jagged edges (aliasing) in an image. It is also known as ā€œdeblurringā€ 12. While anti-aliasing can improve the visual quality of an image, it can also have some drawbacks. Here are some of them:

  1. Performance impact: Anti-aliasing can be computationally expensive and can reduce the frame rate of a game or the speed of an application 3.
  2. Blurring: Anti-aliasing can cause blurring of the image, which can reduce the sharpness of the details 3.
  3. Artifacts: Anti-aliasing can introduce artifacts such as ghosting, shimmering, or flickering in the image 3.
  4. Compatibility issues: Anti-aliasing may not work with all graphics cards or drivers, which can cause compatibility issues 3.

I hope this helps!

When you use Manual, with or without Estimate, whatever you set remains the same for the entire video. It’s a static setting.

From the results I’m seeing, I don’t think Auto is a static setting. Because if you switch to Manual and click Estimate, it will return different settings at different points in the video. So I suspect that Auto means the app is making adjustments like this as it processes. If that’s the case, Relative to Auto allows you to tweak whatever Auto is doing, but it doesn’t stop Auto from doing its thing. So IMO, there should not be an Estimate for this.

If video processing is anything like audio recording, attempting to make manual adjustments to automatic controls just leads to madness.

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Thank you. I thought I conveyed that, but must not have judging by the reply I got.

Multiple issues
First of all I simply want to know what decisions are made that is the estimate
Since auto is auto there is nothing to understand and you will never ever know what type of source gives what result unless you trust the preview and play with relative to auto

The estimate gives you info about specific breaks and gives indeed counterintuitive surprising results which is confusing but might be so intelligent that it really is the best choice and in the end opens new window of choices

That’s an interesting idea. They could make the sliders visible in Auto but instead of being able to change them you could just watch them move back and forth as the app adjusts. They’d be like audio VU meters. :grinning:

If you could do a dry-run and record the levels for the whole movie, then modify them and run it in like an ā€˜Auto Predefined’ mode. That would be useful.

The good thing about VU meters was that even you thought it sounded right you probably were in the red part so in the old audio days you knew when you had to adjust your treble on your Aiwa

We are still very far off implementing the overcrossing in topaz but you could be on something that is for sure